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After researching 60 mice for the latest update to this guide, testing 17 top contenders, and consulting with a panel of experts and laypeople, we found that the is still the best wireless mouse for most people because it’s more comfortable, reliable, and affordable than any other wireless mouse we considered. The majority of our testers—with varying hand sizes and grips—preferred the Marathon’s size, shape, and smooth movement over the competition, especially praising its button selection and placement. Last updated: September 18, 2017 After doing a new round of research and panel testing, we still think the is the best wireless mouse for most people.

We have a new runner-up with Bluetooth and USB dongle connectivity, the and new travel picks, the and. The is our new upgrade pick; and our pick for large hands, the, remains the same. At around $20, the is an excellent value, and it’s been our pick for more than three years.

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Its sensor tracks well on all surfaces except glass and mirrors, it connects quickly and reliably via a small wireless dongle, and it has eight programmable buttons plus a button to toggle the scroll wheel between ratcheted and freewheel scrolling. We’ve used the Marathon five days a week since we bought it in early 2016, and its original batteries have yet to die.

The Marathon can’t connect via Bluetooth, and its optional software for customizing actions is less intuitive than the newer Logitech software used by most of our other picks. But for the majority of people who want to plug in their mouse and go to town, the Marathon remains the best option.

If the Marathon is out of stock, we recommend the for about $40. It’s the second-most comfortable mouse we tested, and it tracks as well as the Marathon. The Triathlon can connect via USB dongle or Bluetooth, and it can pair with and quickly switch between three devices, making it more versatile than the Marathon. It also has six programmable buttons you can customize using Logitech’s latest Options software—its left- and right-click buttons are swappable, but not remappable—and a scroll wheel toggle similar to the Marathon’s. Logitech claims the Triathlon has two years of battery life.

But we don’t think Bluetooth and newer software are worth spending more than $30 for most people. If you use a mouse for hours every day, we recommend the for about $100. It’s expensive, but its comfortable design, excellent thumb rest, and smooth tracking on every surface (even glass and mirror) make it a pleasure to use for long periods of time in most situations. The Master 2S can also pair with up to three Bluetooth devices simultaneously; and it has six buttons that can be customized using the Logitech Options software, a scroll wheel toggle, and a second programmable scroll wheel for your thumb.

Plus, it has a rechargeable battery that Logitech says will last 70 days on a single charge, and our testing so far supports this claim. If you need a wireless Bluetooth mouse for traveling, we recommend the or the, which are identical except that the latter has quieter buttons. For around $40, both are compact but not uncomfortably small like other portable-size mice we tested. The M585 and M590 track as well as our top picks and work on every surface except glass and mirror. Both can connect via Bluetooth or USB dongle, and can pair with two Bluetooth devices at once.

Each has five programmable buttons and supports the Logitech Options software. Our panelists preferred the M590’s near-silent buttons, which provide tactile feedback without a loud click, but at the time of writing the M590 was more expensive and harder to find than the noisier M585.

For people with big hands, we recommend the, which costs about $50. This was the most comfortable mouse for our largest-handed testers, who preferred the size and shape of the Performance Mouse MX over those of the MX Master 2S. The Performance Mouse MX tracked well on all our test surfaces, including glass and mirror. Although it connects only via USB dongle, and its software is outdated (though not necessary for normal use), it has nine programmable buttons, plus a scroll wheel toggle. Logitech claims its rechargeable battery will last roughly a month on a single charge, but our model, which is three-plus years old, makes it through about only nine full workdays. Some of the wireless mice we tested in 2017.

The Wirecutter has been researching and recommending wireless mice since 2013, and our PC team has more than 20 years of combined experience testing, living with, and reviewing computer peripherals. We previously surveyed more than 1,000 readers to determine what qualities most people look for in a great wireless mouse, and over the past four years, we’ve spent more than 130 hours researching 260 wireless mice, and testing more than 40. We each use mice at least nine hours a day, five days a week, to manage spreadsheets, navigate documents, edit photos, and play games. How we picked.

In 2015, we surveyed readers to find out what makes a great wireless mouse. Most of our readers prioritized comfort (which includes grip, how the mouse glides across a surface, and overall feel), sensor performance and type, connection type and dongle size, button placement and variety, useful software, battery life, and warranty coverage. The three main computer mouse-grip styles are fingertip grip, palm grip, and claw grip.

Video: Kimber Streams Based on our survey feedback, this is what you should look for in a wireless mouse: • Comfort: • Size: Comfort can vary based on hand size, so we sought out average hand measurements for adults. Using hand anthropometric (taken from studies conducted in 2002 and 2008), we combined men’s and women’s hand measurements to find that the average palm size is 4 inches, while the average middle finger length is 2.95 inches. We also broke down a and found similar results: a 4-inch average from the base of the participants’ palm to the base of the middle finger, and a 3.23-inch average from the base of the middle finger to the tip. • Grip: Among our survey participants, the most common mouse grip was fingertip at 48 percent, followed by palm at 35 percent and claw at 13 percent. (All three grips are demonstrated in the image above.) We used all three grips with every mouse we tested in order to evaluate comfort.

• Handedness: We found that 94 percent of our respondents use their right hand to operate a mouse, even though only 87 percent of the readers surveyed said they were right-handed. (In fact, one of the panel members during our 2015 testing was a lefty who uses a mouse with his right hand.) We previously tested a dozen ambidextrous mice, but we didn’t find a great full-size mouse for the 6 percent of left-handed mousers.

• Sensor: A mouse’s sensor should be able to register motion correctly and precisely—it shouldn’t stop or jump around the screen. It should also work on a variety of surfaces, primarily desks, hard and soft mouse pads, wood, and fabric. Since a mere 5 percent of our survey respondents told us that they use their mouse on a glass or mirrored surface, a sensor that tracks on glass or mirror is a bonus rather than a requirement. • Connection: The wireless signal shouldn’t cut out during ordinary use across short distances. • Connection options: Some mice can connect only via a 2.4 GHz radio-frequency (RF) USB wireless receiver—aka a dongle—others connect via Bluetooth only, and some mice support both.

Wireless mice that support Bluetooth and USB dongles are the most convenient for most people because they will fit every situation, but they also tend to be more expensive. Most people don’t need to spend the extra money for that capability, but it’s a nice bonus.

• Dongle size: If your mouse uses a wireless receiver to connect to your device, that dongle should be as unobtrusive as possible. The receiver should extend beyond the USB port far enough to let you get a good grip to remove it, but no farther, and it shouldn’t block adjacent USB ports. • Buttons: Every wireless mouse should have the standard right- and left-click buttons. Half of our respondents said that they use the back and forward buttons on the side of the mouse, so we looked for mice that have at least two side buttons for added functionality (although many offer more than that). We also noted the placement of the buttons and whether they’re awkward to use.

• Useful software: Many wireless mice come with bundled software that allows you to track battery life and customize buttons, sensitivity, acceleration, scroll speed, and more. • Battery life: A great wireless mouse should last a few months on a charge, at the very least. Constantly replacing batteries is an inconvenience, and when some mice offer years of battery life, there’s no reason to settle for less. • Warranty: Although most defects covered by the warranty should present themselves within the first year of use, longer warranties are nice to have. In 2017, we researched 60 mice from major manufacturers such as Apple, HP, Logitech, and Microsoft and found 12 new models we wanted to test: The,,,,,,,,,,, and.

We also retested our previous top picks—Logitech’s,,, and, and Microsoft’s. How we tested.

We put each wireless mouse through a battery of sensor tests to test gaming mice to rule out any subpar sensors. We also tested each mouse on a variety of common mousing surfaces, including a desk, a hard mouse pad, a soft mouse pad, a wood floor, fabric, glass, and a mirror. We then used each mouse for part of our workday, every day, for a week to evaluate comfort, button placement, and software. In 2015, we put together a panel of people with varying hand sizes to test wireless mice and discuss which they liked and disliked to supplement our survey results. We did this again in 2017, bringing in seven new panelists to test previous picks and new contenders. We measured each panel member’s mousing hand from the base of the palm to the base of the middle finger, from the base of the middle finger to the tip, and from the tip of the thumb to the tip of the pinkie with the panelist’s hand spread wide.

Though our panelists in both 2015 and 2017 had a wide range of hand sizes, their average measurements align with the average hand measurements we found in other studies: 4 inches (palm), 3.3 inches (finger), and 7.7 inches (spread). Our pick: Logitech Marathon Mouse M705. After two years, the is still the best mouse for most people because of its low price and excellent balance of features: medium size, ergonomic shape, eight customizable buttons, long battery life, and Logitech’s Unifying Receiver, which lets you connect up to six Logitech keyboards and pointing devices via a single USB port. Although it can’t connect via Bluetooth, and its software is less intuitive than the newer Logitech software used by most of our other picks, the inexpensive Marathon is the best mouse for most people who want to plug in their mouse and go to town. Comfort is subjective, so we were pleasantly surprised when the Marathon emerged as the clear comfort favorite among our testers. Eight of our 13 panel members liked the size, grip, and button placement of the Marathon best, and four ranked it second best.

Only one person ranked it fourth in comfort, but they still enjoyed using the mouse. The Marathon has soft, matte-black plastic on the left and right sides that provides a comfortable grip, and the hard gray plastic on top didn’t cause our hands to sweat or stick. Its shape is ergonomic and comfortable for all three grip styles, and most of our testers loved it regardless of their hand size. Our larger-handed testers preferred Logitech’s for its size and hand support, but one said that the Marathon would still be “suitable for extended periods of time.” The Marathon’s sensor tracked smoothly on nearly all of our test surfaces, but without Logitech’s high-end Darkfield sensor, present in, it doesn’t work well on glass and mirrors. And while a few readers have noted that the Marathon’s off-center sensor makes the pointer difficult to control, none of our testing panel (across all grips) experienced these issues, so we don’t think this is common. If you’re concerned, take a look at our other picks, which all have centered sensors.

The Marathon has an unobtrusive Unifying Receiver for easy plug and play; it can’t connect over Bluetooth. The Marathon comes with a, a 2.4 GHz USB dongle that extends beyond the USB port just far enough so you can get a good grip to remove it. If you have another Logitech device that supports the Unifying Receiver, you can use Logitech’s SetPoint software for Windows or Logitech’s Control Center software for Mac to connect multiple devices to the same dongle, freeing up valuable USB ports. The Marathon can’t connect over Bluetooth like most of our other picks, but most people who just want plug and play shouldn’t pay extra for Bluetooth yet. The Marathon also may not be the best option if you own a new computer that has only USB-C ports, since you’d have to connect its USB-A Unifying Receiver to an adapter or hub.

All of the Marathon’s nine buttons are well-placed and easy to reach: left-click, right-click, a button to toggle between ratcheted and infinite scrolling (smooth scrolling that lets you glide to the top or bottom of a page quickly), forward and back buttons on the left side of the mouse, an application-switcher button on the bottom left of the grip, and a scroll wheel that you can tilt left or right and press down. The left- and right-clicks are satisfyingly springy, and the side buttons are solid without feeling mushy. Our only complaint is with the application-switcher button on the thumb rest: It works just fine, but we found it difficult to locate by touch. You can customize all the buttons (except the scrolling toggle) with Logitech SetPoint or Control Center software. This older software—replaced by Logitech Options on newer mice—tracks battery life and allows you to customize sensitivity, acceleration, scroll speed, and other settings, but the Marathon also works as a plug-and-play device if you don’t want to mess around with granular adjustments.

Without the software, the thumb-rest button and the scroll-wheel tilt buttons don’t work, but all other buttons are operational. Although Logitech’s SetPoint and Control Center software don’t have the intuitive design of its newer Options software (which works with most of our other picks), it gets the job done. After we used the Marathon for a few full days of work, SetPoint indicated that the Marathon’s battery was still full, giving an estimate of 1,085 days (nearly three years) of use remaining. We used the same mouse on and off for a year and a half, and the battery was still nearly full, with an estimate of 896 days (about two and a half years) remaining. We haven’t used it every day, but even so: This mouse feels like it might never die.

Our pick comes with a three-year limited warranty, which is better than most of our other picks. If your mouse breaks from ordinary use and you’re covered by the warranty, Logitech will send you a replacement. Just make sure you buy the mouse from a Logitech-authorized seller, like, Best Buy, or Amazon—third-party sellers on Amazon may not be authorized.

Runner-up: Logitech M720 Triathlon. If our top pick is unavailable, or if you don’t mind paying more for the combination of Bluetooth and a USB dongle, we recommend the. The Triathlon was the second-most comfortable mouse according to our panelists, and it can connect via a USB RF dongle or Bluetooth and can pair with up to three Bluetooth devices at a time. It has six programmable buttons, useful software, and long battery life. But with a price of about $40, the Triathlon is too expensive for most people who just want a comfortable, plug-and-play mouse that will last for a few years. (If you can find it for less than $30, the Triathlon is a better value than the Marathon.) The Logitech Triathlon (right) has a higher back arch than our top pick, the Logitech Marathon (left).

Seven new panelists tested the Triathlon in 2017, and they ranked it the second-most comfortable wireless mouse behind the Logitech Marathon M705. Everyone liked the grip and the button placement of the Triathlon, but one panelist pointed out that it didn’t fit their hand as well as the Marathon because of the Triathlon’s higher back arch. (The highest point of the Triathlon measures 2 inches, about a half-inch taller than the Marathon, which stands at 1.6 inches.) The Triathlon is coated in a grippy matte plastic that was enjoyable to use for a full workday and didn’t make our palms sweat.

As with the Marathon, the Triathlon’s sensor aced all of our surface tests except glass and mirror. If you need a mouse with a better sensor, check out. The Triathlon’s sensor is centered, unlike the Marathon’s, so we don’t expect any issues controlling its pointer. The Triathlon includes a 2.4 GHz wireless Unifying Receiver, and it can also pair with up to three devices via Bluetooth, letting you toggle between those Bluetooth devices by pressing a button. By offering both dongle and Bluetooth support, the Triathlon works in more situations than the Marathon—it can connect to more devices and work with computers that lack USB-A ports. But most people don’t need to pay around $20 more for Bluetooth.

The Triathlon’s third side button allows you to switch between three paired Bluetooth devices. It has the same nine buttons as the Marathon Mouse M705, plus the Bluetooth device toggle.

The Triathlon’s buttons share the Marathon’s buttons’ strengths and weaknesses, with crisp left- and right-click panels and responsive, easy-to-reach side buttons, but a mushy application-switcher button on the bottom of its grip. You can customize all of the Triathlon’s buttons except the scrolling toggle, pairing toggle, and left- and right-click buttons. Although its left- and right-click buttons are swappable, you can’t program them to do anything else like you can with the Marathon. The Triathlon works with Logitech’s latest Options software, which tracks battery life and allows you to customize sensitivity, as well as pointer speed, scrolling speed, scroll direction, and smooth scrolling. Options is much more intuitive and enjoyable to use than the older SetPoint and Control Center apps. The Triathlon also supports software, which allows you to move your cursor between multiple computers on the same network and even copy and paste between the two—even between Windows and Mac computers.

Most people don’t work across multiple computers, but this is an exciting new development for some professionals. Like the Marathon, the Triathlon still works as a plug-and-play (or pair-and-play) device if you don’t need customization. (Without the software, the scroll-wheel tilt buttons don’t work, but all other buttons are functional.) Logitech claims that the Triathlon’s battery will last for two years, although we haven’t been able to test that.

We used the Triathlon for a handful of days over the course of a month, though, and the Options software said that the battery was still completely full. It also comes with a one-year limited hardware warranty, compared with the Marathon’s three years. An upgrade pick: Logitech MX Master 2S. If you spend all day using a mouse, we recommend spending more for the. Our panel found it comfortable for all grips and hand sizes, even though it’s a bit larger and heavier than the Marathon.

The MX Master 2S is an upgrade over our main pick in just about every way: It has a better sensor, it can pair and switch between multiple Bluetooth devices, it has six programmable buttons and a second scroll wheel for your thumb, it supports Logitech’s Flow software, and it has a rechargeable battery. The Logitech MX Master 2S costs about $100, and many people don’t want to spend that much on a wireless mouse, even if it is the best—four of our panelists loved its feel and features, but said they wouldn’t spend more than $60 for it. But as people who use a mouse at least nine hours a day for document and photo editing, spreadsheets, and more, this is the wireless mouse we would buy. The MX Master 2S’s contoured shape and thumb rest make it comfortable to use for long periods.

All our panel members liked its size and shape and praised the comfy soft-touch coating. Our largest-handed tester still preferred the size and palm support of the Logitech Performance Mouse MX,, and one of our smaller-handed testers liked the Marathon Mouse M705’s size better.

But even those two agreed that the MX Master 2S was a comfortable fit. The MX Master 2S measures 3.4 inches wide, 5 inches long, and 2 inches tall, and it weighs 5.1 ounces—larger and heavier than the Marathon all around, but smaller than the Performance. Our upgrade pick uses Logitech’s Darkfield sensor, and in our tests it worked on all surfaces, including glass and mirrors. Like our runner-up, the MX Master 2S can pair with up to three devices via Bluetooth and lets you quickly switch between them (in this case, by pressing a button on the bottom of the mouse). If your computer doesn’t have Bluetooth, or if you prefer a dongle, the MX Master 2S can also connect via an included 2.4 GHz wireless Logitech Unifying Receiver. But the Master 2S offers no place to store the dongle inside, unlike most wireless mice that have dongles. The Logitech MX Master 2S has a second programmable scroll wheel on its side.

In addition to snappy, satisfying left- and right-click buttons, the MX Master 2S offers six programmable inputs: a clickable scroll wheel, a button just below the scroll wheel, back and forward buttons on the side, a button integrated into the thumb rest, and a second programmable scroll wheel on its side. (By default this side scroll wheel is set to horizontal scrolling, which is great for graphic designers or video editors, but we’ve found that configuring it to scroll between browser tabs is life-changing.) The MX Master 2S’s primary scroll wheel feels crisp but lacks left and right tilt. You can switch it between ratcheted and infinite scrolling, and you can toggle between them using a remappable button just below the scroll wheel.

The MX Master 2S also has SmartShift, which automatically switches between scrolling modes based on how fast you flick the wheel. (SmartShift worked surprisingly well in our tests, but it can be frustrating if it triggers too easily.

You can adjust the sensitivity of the feature using the Logitech Options software, or disable it completely if you dislike it.) The Master 2S’s back and forward buttons are stacked at a diagonal angle, though, which makes them somewhat awkward to use. And like the Triathlon and Marathon, the MX Master 2S’s thumb-rest button is mushy and difficult to press.

The Master 2S supports, as well as Logitech Flow, which lets you move your cursor between multiple computers—even between Mac and Windows—on the same network. You can also copy content and drag files from one computer to the other. The MX Master 2S has shorter battery life than the Marathon or Triathlon.

Logitech claims the MX Master 2S will last up to 70 days on a single charge, while the Marathon and Triathlon last for years. We used the Master 2S on and off for around three weeks, which consumed about a third of its battery life according to the battery meter in the software. At this rate, we expect it to last for nearly 70 days. Three LEDs embedded in the palm rest display the battery level when you turn the mouse on, and the Options software also notifies you on your computer when the MX Master 2S’s battery is running low. The battery recharges via the included Micro-USB–to–USB cable (or any similar cable), and you can continue to use the mouse while it’s charging. But because the battery is built in and can’t be replaced, you’ll have to buy a new mouse someday when that battery degrades and no longer holds a charge.

The MX Master has a one-year limited hardware warranty—shorter than the three-year warranty Logitech offers for the Marathon and the Performance MX—but most defects covered by the warranty should present themselves within the first year of use anyway. A portable option: Logitech M585 Multi-Device or M590 Multi-Device Silent. If you need a more compact mouse, the and are the best options. Both are smaller than our other picks without being uncomfortable, track well on every surface except mirror and glass, can connect via dongle or Bluetooth, and have five programmable buttons. The M585 and M590 are identical, except that the M590’s left- and right-clicks give only tactile feedback instead of the noise and tactile response of most computer mice. Although all of our panelists preferred using the M590’s quiet buttons—and its near-inaudible feedback would be useful in a public space, like working from a coffee shop or while traveling on a train—the M585 was more affordable and widely available at the time of this writing. Our panelists, regardless of hand size, liked the M585/M590’s grip, shape, button selection, and scroll wheel more than most of the other small mice.

Everyone except our largest-handed tester agreed that the M585 and M590 are tall and wide enough to offer proper palm support for extended use. Both mice have a grippy, matte plastic covering on the left and right sides that’s comfortable to hold and easy to grip, and the hard plastic on top didn’t make our hands sweat or stick. Our testers found only the more comfortable, but none were willing to pay around $70 for it. The Logitech M585/M590 (top right) are a little smaller than our other picks. Both the Logitech M585 and M590 are more compact than our other picks—measuring 4.1 inches long, 2.5 inches wide, and 1.6 inches tall—but because the M585 and M590 are as tall as our top pick, they provide enough palm support for extended use. At 2.6 ounces, each weighs 1.2 ounces less than the Marathon.

While the weight difference here is negligible, the lighter and smaller your mouse is for throwing in your bag and traveling, the better. The gray button below the scroll wheel on the M585 and M590 toggles between paired Bluetooth devices. In our testing, the M585 and M590 mice worked well on all surfaces except on mirrors and glass, like the Marathon and Triathlon.

And they can connect via 2.4 GHz wireless Unifying Receiver or Bluetooth, which means they can connect to a wider variety of devices than mice that use only RF or Bluetooth. The M585 and M590 can also pair with two Bluetooth devices simultaneously, letting you switch between them with a button near the scroll wheel. (The M585 and M590 don’t have infinite scrolling like our other picks.) They have five other, programmable buttons—a scroll wheel that you can press down, as well as tilt left and right; and two side buttons—that are responsive and comfortable to reach. Like Logitech’s Triathlon and Master 2S, these mice work with the Logitech Options software and Logitech Flow.

The company claims their battery life will last for up to two years, and both mice come with a one-year warranty. For large hands: Logitech Performance Mouse MX. If you have big hands or prefer large mice, we recommend the. The Performance is even larger than our upgrade pick, making it the most comfortable to use for larger-handed people. Plus, it has nine programmable buttons, more than any of our other picks.

But it has a mediocre scroll wheel and it lacks the MX Master 2S’s thumb scroll wheel, Bluetooth, and support for Logitech’s latest software. This mouse costs nearly twice as much as our main pick, but it’s much cheaper than the MX Master 2S, so if you have huge hands and want to spend less, the Performance MX is a great option. The Logitech Performance Mouse MX (right) is longer and wider than the Marathon Mouse M705 (left) and the Logitech MX Master 2S (middle), making it better suited for larger hands. Five out of seven panel members said the Performance was too large to use comfortably every day, but our two largest-handed testers said this mouse—which measures 5.1 inches long, 3.9 inches wide, and 1.9 inch tall—fit their hands just right. For comparison, the Marathon Mouse M705 is considerably more compact at 4.3 inches by 2.6 inches by 1.6 inch, with the MX Master 2S falling in between the two at 5 inches by 3.4 inches by 2 inches. Four panel members mentioned that the contour of this mouse dug into their palm on the pinkie side, near the wrist. The MX Master 2S, our upgrade pick, did not have this problem.

Like our top pick, the Performance Mouse MX uses Logitech’s Unifying Receiver instead of Bluetooth to connect to your laptop. The Performance has a Darkfield sensor, like the MX Master 2S, which allows it to track smoothly on all surfaces, including glass and mirrors.

The Performance connects only via Logitech’s Unifying Receiver, though; it doesn’t have Bluetooth like the MX Master 2S. Filme Michael Jackson Moonwalker Dublado Download Gratis. The Performance Mouse MX has nine customizable buttons, more than any of our other picks: the same button selection as the Marathon, plus an additional Zoom button on the left side. We preferred the MX Master 2S’s fantastic thumb scroll wheel in place of the Performance’s Zoom button, though. We also didn’t like the Performance MX’s scroll wheel, even though it tilts unlike the MX Master 2S’s. Ratcheted scrolling feels imprecise, and the scroll wheel’s built-in down button feels mushy. The Performance MX’s application-switcher button in the thumb rest is surrounded by a plastic frame with a sharp edge that can dig into your thumb, another problem unique to this mouse.

The Performance works with Logitech’s older SetPoint and Control Center software, and doesn’t support Logitech Options and Flow like the MX Master 2S does. Like the MX Master 2S, the Performance uses a built-in rechargeable battery, and you can still use the mouse while it’s charging via USB. Logitech quotes the battery life at a maximum of one month, and two panel members who have owned this mouse said they’ve had to charge it “more often than [they’d] like.” (Logitech has dramatically improved battery life on newer mice, but the Performance MX has been around for many years.) We used about a third of the Performance’s battery life after three workdays according to Logitech SetPoint’s battery-life estimate, a result that suggests that we should expect about nine workdays in total on a single charge. The Performance Mouse MX comes with a three-year limited warranty.

What about vertical mice? Vertical mice claim to help position your hand in a more neutral position (or “handshake posture”) and reduce wrist movement to avoid discomfort and injury. According to, by Cornell University professor and ergonomics expert Alan Hedge, using a vertical mouse can actually increase “wrist extension deviation,” as well as slow down performance, even after the initial learning curve subsides. We tested the popular $20. After using the Anker vertical mouse for a few days and familiarizing ourselves with its shape, we still noticed some, and we found it difficult to reach the mouse’s buttons. Although most reviews of the Anker mouse are overwhelmingly positive, many of the Anker’s critical reviews come from people with smaller hands, who found that and that they had to constantly to reach the buttons.

We also found reviews from who found the vertical design uncomfortable, forcing their pinky finger off of the mouse and onto their desk. Although some people may benefit from the shape of a vertical mouse, we recommend consulting with a doctor about the right ergonomic devices for your specific needs. Cornell University has published, gleaned from the university’s mouse research studies, which include: varying your posture; holding your mouse gently; making controlled movements with your mouse, using your elbow as the pivot point; and keeping your wrist free of surface-pressure contact. If you’re not following these tips, you’ll lose whatever potential benefits an ergonomic mouse provides. The competition. The wireless mice we tested in 2017, as well as our top picks from 2016.

We tested the and —popular, inexpensive mice that look similar to the Marathon Mouse M705. Both models have fewer buttons than the Marathon and lack infinite scrolling, plus their scroll wheels feel mushier than the Marathon’s and they lack software for customizing the mice. Although they’re reasonably comfortable for the price, we don’t recommend them over our top pick. The is another popular cheap mouse that looks similar to the Marathon, but it wasn’t as comfortable in our testing. It also has fewer buttons, lacks infinite scrolling, feels less sturdily built, and lacks customization software. Our former upgrade pick, the, has been replaced by the.

Compared with the older version, the 2S supports Logitech Flow and has longer battery life—70 days, up from 40, according to Logitech. If you don’t care about longer battery life, or Logitech Flow support, the MX Master is still a great mouse for nearly half the price. Our panel described the unusually shaped (aka Sculpt Ergo) as “surprisingly comfortable” and praised its great scroll wheel. Its unusual shape forces a very specific grip, however, and our testers didn’t like the glossy surface, the mushy side button, or the intrusive Windows button. Our smallest-handed tester said the Sculpt Ergo was too big, and our largest-handed tester said it was too small. Sports a large blue strip with a Windows logo that opens the start menu when pressed, and supports swipe-up and swipe-down gestures that work in Windows.

It has a great scroll wheel, but our panel didn’t like the glossy-plastic surface and thought the mouse was too flat and too long. We tested the older, which has a touchpad in place of a scroll wheel that provides audible and haptic feedback. But the touchpad is unreliable, and the underside of the Arc Touch is hollow when in use, which means the mouse has a terribly uncomfortable grip. Our complaints with the Arc Touch Mouse’s grip apply to its successor, the, too. The has one fewer side button than our top pick, and all our testers agreed that it was a little too small. The scroll wheel lacks ratcheted scrolling, and most panel members said the scroll wheel was too smooth to use effectively. The and have no buttons beyond left-click and right-click and cost the same as our top pick.

The M220 also felt like a cheap toy; when we picked it up, we could hear what sounded like rattling parts inside. The is one of the best-selling mice on Amazon, but our panel said the M510 was too long and felt “cheap,” citing the protruding side buttons, mushy scroll wheel, and glossy surface. The has only three buttons, and our panel registered a variety of complaints about its design. When our panelists tried out the, they noted its lack of palm support and low-set, mushy scroll wheel. Its sensor also jumped a little on textured surfaces in some of our tests.

The was one of two Bluetooth touch mice we tested (along with the Apple Magic Mouse, below), and our panel universally disliked it. This model comes with a very short, 4.5-inch micro-USB cable that plugs into the underside of the mouse, rendering the T630 unusable when charging. Most gestures worked reliably, but the T630 had trouble differentiating between one-finger and two-finger swipes. Is too flat and uncomfortable for extended use. You also have no way to take advantage of the Magic Mouse’s best feature—its integrated touch surface—on Windows. (Without additional software, it will pair with a Windows machine and work like a basic mouse, giving you cursor control, left-click, and right-click.) By installing the, you can add a battery-life indicator as well as natural and one-finger scrolling to Windows, but no other functions are available.

Portable mice The is our former portable pick, but in our latest round of testing, none of our panelists liked it over the Logitech M585 and M590. It has fewer buttons than these other mice and lacks software for customization, and it’s uncomfortably small. The has fewer buttons than the Logitech M585 and M590, lacks software support, and costs about $10 more than the M585. The is too flat, making it uncomfortable to use for long stretches and awkward to reach the scroll wheel. Amazon reviews with the and the left-click panel sticking.

The is inexpensive, but it’s too flat to provide any palm support, its scroll wheel lacks clear ratchets, and it feels less precise than all our picks. All of our panelists disliked it. Our 2015 panel agreed that the and its successor, the, were too small and flat to use comfortably for extended periods. Our 2017 panelists liked the size and shape of the newer, but they weren’t willing to pay $70 for it. The lacks left and right tilt buttons on the scroll wheel, and the glossy-plastic surface warps a little under normal hand pressure. Several panelists who tested the thought the grooves on the side of the mouse, the seam across the palm rest, and the raised plastic on either side of the scroll wheel were uncomfortable.

The has a mushy, textured scroll wheel that lacks left and right tilt. All our panel members said that the felt “cheap” and that the smooth-plastic sides made the mouse difficult to grip. It also lacks left and right tilt buttons on the scroll wheel, and the ratcheted scrolling feels loose and mushy.

The didn’t track well on a smooth desk or soft mouse pad in our tests, and it lacks left and right tilt buttons on the scroll wheel. None of our testers said they would recommend the to others because of its tiny size. Even the tester with the smallest hands asked, “Is this a mouse for babies?” The is similar in shape and feel to the M325—one of our panelists called it “itsy-bitsy,” and none said they would recommend it to others. The felt cheap because of its rough, hard-plastic surface.

The pads on the bottom also had a tendency to catch on surfaces during use, especially soft mouse pads and fabric. • Wirecutter editor Dan Frakes, in an older column for Macworld, offers a as to why manufacturers don’t tailor mice to left-handers. • USB 3.0 ports and devices have been shown to (PDF) that can interfere with the performance of devices using the 2.4 GHz wireless band. Affected devices include both mice that rely on 2.4 GHz radio-frequency USB dongles and mice that connect via Bluetooth. The noise can radiate from a port on your computer, a port on the connected device, or the cable connecting the two.

For example, if you have a USB 3.0 hard drive plugged into a USB 3.0 port, the interference can come from the port on your computer, the USB cord, or even the drive’s USB connection. If your wireless mouse constantly drops its connection, you should try plugging it into a USB 2.0 port, if available, and keep the dongle and mouse away from active USB 3.0 ports and devices. If you’re still having trouble, you can plug your wireless device into a to move it farther from the source of the interference. I’m looking for a wireless mouse too, also a keyboard to go with it.

I’m going to use it on a media centre / gaming on the big screen. Having tried numerous mice in the shops, the Anywhere MX is by far the best mouse for my hand. But having the middle mouse button not on the wheel really doesn’t meet my needs, I actually thought it was broken which the shop assistant agreed. The RAT9 would have been a great fit (wireless, 1000hz polling rate, adjustable shape and weight (what’s the lightest weight of the RAT9?), plenty of buttons) if not for the great big transmitter and the lack of charging on the fly (via an AC adaptor to the wall socket next to my couch) which mean that it’s not viable to take with me while I’m in laptop mode.

The G700 is, like many other 1000hz (are there 500hz wireless mice out there?) polling rate mice, too tall for my kung-fu claw/finger grip. I have been using the (wired, 500hz USB polling rate, 126g) Microsoft X5 for a few years now and am still not used to the height of the palm rest. There’s a mobile RAT coming out, what are people’s thoughts on that? Ideas welcome! I purchased one of these Anywhere MX mice back at the beginning of the year, and absolutely cannot recommend them at all.

When using Apple’s AA batteries (rebranded Eneloops) the mouse never reports more than 75% capacity, though it sticks to that for a week or more. I’m lucky to get a month of use out of it on a full charge. Worse though, is that after six months of use, I am now having sever RSI problems on my mousing hand. The buttons are very stiff, and my index finger is now starting to be very painful when using this mouse. Clicking in the scroll wheel switches it between notched and free-spinning modes, rather than acting as a middle-click, and there’s a button below it for that function. I had no problem using this, but ergonomically it’s a disaster.

The free-spinning wheel is too loose, and notched is very “rough.” The wheel also supports tilting left/right to scroll sideways, and just like everything else on the mouse, it’s a very stiff switch they use, which is also an ergonomic disaster. I am also starting to have wrist pain as well, due to the angle it puts your hand at when using the mouse, and because it isn’t wide enough to properly support your hand, so you are grasping in with your pinkie finger without even realising it. It is so bad now that for the last week, I actually flipped the mouse buttons over and started to use the mouse with my left hand, and ALREADY I am starting to show problems with my left index finger. This morning, I pulled my old Razer DeathAdder out of storage, have been using it all day so far, and the pain in my wrist and index finger is already starting to subside. The click action is far lighter, and the mouse is much better contoured to fit your hand, rather than forcing you to flatten out your wrist as much as the Anywhere MX does. The wheel is notched, but only enough that you know when it’s moved, and it functions as a middle-click like you would expect. That’s not to say that I think it’s the perfect mouse, it’s wired rather than wireless, Razer products are notorious for poor build quality, and it won’t even track on my black desk without a mousepad (unlike the Anywhere MX, which will even track on glass) but I was shocked at how quickly switching to another mouse has made a difference.

As much as I would prefer to have a wireless mouse, I really think that gaming companies such as Razer, SteelSeries and Mionix are paying far more attention to the ergonomics of using a mouse than companies such as Logitech. If you’re playing computer games all day, you’re going to be using the mouse far more often, so it makes sense that it’s much more important for them than someone who works in an office and is typing up documents in MS Word etc. And for that matter, I purchased a Logitech K750 keyboard at the same time as the mouse, which I’m sure is also a contributing factor. The low profile design, and being wireless without having to ever think about batteries is great. The keyswitches require a LOT of force to actuate, and it’s impossible to not bottom-out with them.

Just as I will be replacing my mouse, I will also be looking into getting a good quality wired mechanical keyboard (Filco, Ducky, Topre) that actuates with significantly less force, and doesn’t require you to press the key down so that it hits off the plate at the bottom of the keyboard as you type. Give me this mouse a few years ago, when I used middle-click for closing browser tabs, and I would have been highly annoyed. But at some point since then I’ve transitioned to using Cmd-W.

And I suspect most casual users just click the little X. Anyway, the mouse feels great for being so small, and the tracking is better on more surfaces than any optical mouse I’ve used before. Contrary to what the above review claims, the mouse is not quite symmetrical. Aside from the back/forward buttons both being located on one side, the thumb groove on the left is also noticeably deeper.

Not a problem for me as I’m right-handed, but I’d recommend that lefties try it out if possible before buying. I have the Logitech Anywhere and also the Logitech Performance MX, and I have to disagree: the comfort and usability is not similar. The Performance is notably easier to hold for extended periods and the added weight and grip makes a real difference in movement and precision. The scroll wheel is also heavier and smoother-spinning on the Performance mouse, making it significantly more usable in real terms. I agree that the Anywhere is good value and very convenient as a travel mouse, but that’s as far as it goes. If you’re equipping your desk the Performance is superior and worth the extra cost. I have to agree with you.

Value for money would have to go to the Anywhere MX but in terms of just overall usability especially for work applications I’d have to go with the Performance MX. It’s really comfortable and I’ve been using it at work for about three months now and it just feels great in your hand. It does take getting used to at first especially when using the thumb buttons but after that initial hump it’s great. Even the Anywhere mouse does feel too light on my hands now ever since I got used to the “heaviness” of the Performance MX. As to the Anywhere MX, the mouse wheel not acting like the middle mouse button but instead act as the scroll speed lock does throw me off a little but I’ve gotten used to it after using it for 3 years.

Another flaw IMO is that you do need to reprogram the the application switcher (who uses that anyway?) button into the middle mouse button. After the initial re-programming of the button, in my experience the setting would also be saved in the nano receiver if you transfer it to a different computer. Overall, it’s still a great mouse despite these flaws. Another thing is that the ability of being able to reprogram certain keys/buttons in Logitech devices is a great plus.

In both mice, I’ve reprogrammed the Forward and Back thumb buttons into Volume Up and Down buttons respectively. I have the Logitech Anywhere MX, and as a big fan of this mouse, I have to state my disagreement with The Wirecutter regarding their assessment of the design/materials change to this product from 2012. I recently went to a lot of trouble to purchase the “original” matte version of this mouse released back in 2009, because after a few days with the new “shiny” version, I just couldn’t stand it.

The glossy plastic used on the current iteration of this mouse: (1) causes my hands to sweat too much, (2) feels too distinctly like cheap plastic, (3) accumulates too much hand oil, needing to be cleaned frequently. I think Logitech made a really poor choice with regards to changing the materials/aesthetics of this particular product. Or perhaps I am just pickier than most. The other assessments about the mouse being comfortable, having solid construction and buttons, and tracking smoothly are all on point. But that glossy feel is a deal-breaker in my opinion. I ended up opting to purchase a Like-New version from an Amazon reseller instead of settling for a downgraded version of this product.

After some research, and friends advice I decided to go for this mouse. I was really excited about it having read the wonderful reviews.

The mouse arrived fast and was the best mouse I’ve ever used in my life but just for ONE MONTH, after that the left button, (THE MOST USED BUTTON IN A MOUSE!!!) started double-clicking. I contacted Logitech, they sent a replacement but go the same problem. I don’t trust Logitech anymore, because if what is supposed to be one of their best products has such a critical glitch I do not what know about their other stuff. I’m in the search of another mouse, any advice? So you “don’t recommend used mice because of ewww.”.

Ever heard of antiseptic? I just bought an m505 for 10 bucks, aprox. 2 years usage, fully working and no cosmetic damages, then soaked it on 95% alcohol (less water).

Just disinfect it – remove batteries, apply non-corrosive/acid or any other plastic/silicon eating materials. You can 2-word google a thorough list and guide with the keywords “life” “hacker” “disinfect”.

If you still feel like “ewww”, let me f-up your day: the last door knob you used outside your home has much more germ variety than any second-hand (pun intended) computer peripheral. And I won’t even mention used cars Still a great article. And definitely a great mouse •. I’ve had my Anywhere MX for a couple years now, I bought it at a Navy Exchange on clearance for $30, because someone had returned it opened. Mine isthe older model with the matte finish, and i have to say, i’ve NEVER had a better mouse. I’ve really only used two wireless mice, the Logitech M505, and the Anywhere MX.

The Darkfield is amazing, it never lapses in tracking, never jumps, and the Unifying has great connectivity, it never has to be unplugged or anything. The only problem i’ve EVER had with it was with the scroll.

Occasionally, (and not anytimne recently, it might have been an issue with one of the versions of setpoint) the scroll would get really touchy and scrolling one line would scroll through an entire document, as if the wheel had been spun really hard in free scroll mode. Like i said, it hasn’t happened recently, but i’m just putting it out there.

It would do this until i restarted my computer, (even if i completely nuked setpoint in the task manager) so it also might have been a glitch in windows. Also, it works perfectly in Ubuntu, (and presumably linux in general) including all the buttons, and left/right scroll buttons. Overall, i definitely agree with this review, and recommend the mouse to anyone looking for a great all-around mouse. I purchased the Anywhere MX based on this recommendation, and while I have no problem with the feel of the mouse, its performance has been disappointing. Essentially, the on/off switch is designed poorly such that the mouse will frequently switch itself on and off during usage. This behavior was documented on the Logitech forums here: Mine is one of the pre-2012 revisions so I cannot comment on the update.

However, based on the aforementioned post, it does appear that anything has been done to resolve this issue. Given the many positive reviews, I can only assume that this is an issue which affects a minority of users.

I would suggest that anyone purchasing the mouse is aware of this issue and proactive about demanding that Logitech resolve it. This is still too small to fit comfortably in adult male hands. The Performance MX is much better in that regard but it uses a proprietary battery and has short battery life. If Logitech could just come up with a true full sized mouse with hyper fast scrolling and long battery life I would upgrade in a heart beat.

They are 2/3 of the way there with the M510 (no hyper fast scrolling) and 2/3 of the way there with the Performance MX (battery is proprietary and does not last long) and 2/3 of the way there with the new M560 (not truly full size but rather mid size). I agree that when this mouse does function, it is one of the best choices. But it is known for a few troublesome issues and to be honest, you cannot praise this mouse over the Marathon mouse. Mx Anywhere is not so much better than all other mice on the market. Frankly I find your review today would be different because I am on my 3rd one and as far as the aesthetics from the 1st version when compared to the 2nd version, I could care less. I am tired of changing batteries every 3 weeks or so. I am tired of the left clicker always developing erratic behavior, like clicking once to go back to the previous web page and it responds as if I clicked it 3 or 4 times.

And I know alot of users of this mouse are experiencing this same problem. I use the V470 as my go to mouse and aside from being a little less smooth, I would NEVER buy, or even call logitech for another replacement, of this MX Anywhere Mouse. I use rechargeable batteries and frankly, changing batteries is a process so it does not bother me if i have to pay. It’s the many inconveniences that have made my once stellar review of the MX Anywhere Mouse a thing of the past.

I will not recommend this mouse and I certainly have to advise all that if you are a daily user, moderate to heavy use, then this mouse is NOT going to win your affections. It might in the beginning. But I cannot even get through my 3 year warranty without yet another exchange. I am on my 3rd one. And it too is acting up. It likes to stop working, then it breaks free.

This is yet another new problem. How can you even think twice. The M705 Marathon Mouse is fitted with a 3200 dpi laser according to the review on this site, and it has a battery that lasts for 3 years. How on earth can you even consider this problematic MX Mouse. I know those who have used it for about 18 months or more, your MX Anywhere may have already given you trouble too. Well, I vote for the touch pad option I think.

Anything is better than the trouble this Anywhere MX Mouse is giving so many people including me •. “trackpads are the future”.then a bunch of wireless garbagegarbage article. None of your mentioned mice are better than a ten year old microsoft wheel mouse optical you find for a dollar at goodwill. People’s taste in mice are proof that people today have become very stupid and have lost all belief in “function over form”.

Glossy plastic looks dirty and oily after you touch it, gets scratched over time, and feels sticky and sweaty. It also looks like cheap crap from china. Textured plastic or rubber is much better in every way.

New mice look ugly and pretentious. They are either heavy, their wheel is obnoxiously loud, or the middle click is obnoxiously difficult to press. It seems that around 2007 people stopped trying to improve mice and started going for a futuristic, shiny piece of junk. I can’t recommend any Logitech mouses, just for the fact that their SetPoint software is so miserably buggy with such consistency.

Just search for Logitech erratic scrolling and you’ll find hundreds of posts complaining about the issue. They’ve offered several fixes but every version after a certain point (can’t remember which, but it’s been years) has the same issue, scroll suddenly jumping far beyond what was expected, sometimes jumping back up a second after you stop scrolling, and instantly goes away when the SetPoint software is exited. Just recently I got a notification of a new version so I tried it out but nope, same problem. The official Logitech stance is to do a complete uninstall and revert to an older version. Don’t get me wrong, I love their hardware, but damn their software sucks. Gotta love clicking a Wirecutter link for Best Wireless Mouse with the mouse that they selected as Best Wireless Mouse. Very gratifying.

Also, I know you have gaming mice and more mainstream mice separated, but I’ve found the Logitech G602 to be a very nice mouse for use at home on my gaming/general use PC. The battery life is comparable to mainstream mice but you have far more sensitivity/DPI settings as well as programmable buttons. You also have the option of a performance mode for times when you want to game at the temporary cost of that great power consumption. I concur that many people dont need that extra mouse buttons. BUT, this mouse have great features i look for in wireless mouse.

Things i consider when looking for a mouse. Optical tracking. Laser tracking have problem tracking when mouse is moved very fast. Center tracking sensor. Mouse that put their tracking sensor NOT in the center is bad. Its hard to predict where the cursor goes.

I have large hand. Low latency/lag. I should not notice any latency. Long battery life.

Mouse like performance mx or g700 have less than one day before the battery needs to be recharge. Totally unacceptable. Non smooth scrolling. Smooth scrolling is useless for fps gaming. Not bluetooth.

Bluetooth mouse have problems like, wake up delay, eats battery, low polling rate etc. Logitech used to make mouse that have all these great features. But now, only g602 have these features (when considering mouse made by logitech only.) while g602 have extra features, i just ignore them(dpi settings, multiple programmable buttons).

Regarding battery life, I purchased a marathon m705 mouse in November 2011, and I just replaced the batteries this March. According to the control panel I was at 20% battery life, so I could have gone a couple months longer. I use this mouse at work– I’m using it right now. I work in IT, so I am constantly at my computer, all day long.

The battery life truly is excellent. I prefer the ergonomics of the much larger Performance Mouse MX (have one at home) but its battery life is terrible, so I just leave it plugged in. I strongly prefer a wireless trackball. With a trackball, you have precise control.

You don’t have to move anything large. You don’t have to move your arms. You simply move the trackball with your forefingers (at least with the good trackballs). And you won’t get carpal tunnel syndrome as easily with a trackball as you can with a mouse. The best trackball ever was the discontinued Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman. Unfortunately, Logitech never updated it so it would use a smaller USB receiver. Instead, Logitech killed it off for the far worse thumb-trackball model.

The thumb is not as precise as the forefinger. The Kensington Orbit Wireless Trackball is a good second. Unfortunately, the trackball is a little too small. And the touch-scroll ringt is imprecise. I would have preferred a real scroll wheel as on the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman. And the Orbit has only two programmable buttons as oppose to the several on the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman.

But with the death of the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman – gnashing teeth – the best we have is the Kensington Orbit Wireless Trackball. The Wired trackballs are not as good as the wireless trackballs. The wired ones tend to be large – too large. The exception is the Logitech Marble Mouse – which is limited by having too few buttons and now scroll wheel. Give the Logitech Marble Mouse a real scroll wheel and a few more buttons and it would be a perfect wired trackball. The grips for the mouse described in this article are not the best.

The best way to grip a mouse is simply with two fingers – thumb and ring finger. The forefinger and middle finger simply press the right and left buttons. With this grip style, you have precise control with small flicks of the fingers, minimizing having to bend your wrist when moving the mouse sideways. Moving the mouse in any direction means simply moving your thumb and ring fingers. No need to move your whole hand or arm. To move the mouse a large distance, on the Mac, simply flick it quickly.

The Mac’s inertial control will move it the long distance. I bought and returned the “Marathon” mouse endorsed here. I couldn’t stand the lack of a middle-click button. (I use middle click constantly for opening web browser links in a new tab) That button behind the scroll wheel is _only_ for toggling the wheel detents. Middle clicking by pushing the wheel is hopeless when it’s in the “free spin” mode as any slight motion causes a scroll action so you miss whatever you were trying to click on. I much prefer having a dedicated middle-click button, ideally in the *middle*, and having the wheel-push action toggle the scroll detents. You just don’t switch often enough to dedicate a good spot to it.

And since the push-the-scroll-wheel-without-scrolling button is pretty hard to use, it’s a good candidate for this infrequent need. I have my MX Revolution set up this way on my desktop, and for my laptop I replaced the returned Marathon mouse with the (previous pick) Anywhere MX mouse that works the same. I don’t miss that “application switcher” button and maybe that “darkfield” sensor will come in handy someday. And yes, I maybe have to charge up the Eneloops every three months instead of once a year.

But that’s OK. I also use the same middle click action, which is why I have stuck with an Anywhere Mouse MX for years. There doesn’t seem to be any decent mice that can replicate this setup. However, Logitech’s support site makes it seem like it’s as easy as customizing any of the other buttons in on the M705 in SetPoint () when that button is in fact non-programmable. If Logitech released a revised M705 with a similar middle click as you described, I’d get it in a second.

Seems like a petty quibble but it’s very difficult to get over a muscle memory habit. This is wrong.

The Middle Button on the mouse is the click action on the scroll wheel. THIS is what you are customizing in SetPoint. The button below the scroll wheel is purely mechanical, for toggling smooth and notched action on the scroll wheel. It has no logical connection to the computer. I tried the Marathon and like the poster above, found the scroll wheel/middle button combination to be very annoying. Like he said, when you click it, you can’t help moving the scroll wheel a little as well.

You keep missing links. If you want a dedicated middle button you have to get the MX Anywhere. However this is a moot point because all Logitech mice have extremely low grade button contacts which start sending phantom double clicks after a few months of moderate use. I have the Logitech Performance Mouse MX for many years.

I can’t really recommend it. The middle button click has never worked reliablly. I tried new editions of this same mouse, it still doesn’t work. If you often use the middle click (like closing tabs in browsers), this mouse is a no go.

Google for this problem, forums are full with this topic. There’s even a hack to overcome this problem with superglue, however, it voids the warranty. The USB 3.0 interference is a serious problem. When finally it seems it’s gone, it’s back again. Lately, under Windows 8.1, there are driver issues, selecting text is erratic (other mouse work well in the same conditions).

The Darkfield sensor works well, although on glass surfaces it is only passable. It’s not the same feeling as on regular surfaces. In the end, I always switched to a table with normal surface. Sometimes however, in fancy hotel rooms for example, there were only glass-tables, and even this passable feature was handy. Otherwise, I find the mouse comfortable, I have large hands. I use the two extra buttons (Zoom, Windows switcher) configured to move windows among multiple screens, they are very handy for that! I obviously can’t argue with your own experience, but I’ve been using my Logitech MX310 (wired) for almost every day, usually for several hours per day for over 8 years, without a single issue of any kind, unless you count the silvery-finish starting to fade.

That includes no small amount of click heavy gaming. I’m not one to hammer the buttons, but I’m not always gentle when in the middle of an intense FPS match. I might as well add, just for general discussion, for a travel mouse, I like my Kensington Slimblade. It is a very small mouse, and I fully expect those who don’t like small mice to hate it, but since I don’t rest my palm on the mouse, and don’t often use it for more than 2 hours at a time, it’s fine for me. It sees far less use than my desktop mouse, but the 4 years it’s given me so far are a good start.

It tracks great on pretty much any surface except glass. This article does not take into account that all Logitech mice are manufactured with a very poor quality button contact which starts producing phantom clicks after 6 months or so. Meaning: you click the button once, but 2 clicks are produced.

It makes the mouse effectively unusable. In case you think I’ve just had bad luck, consider this: I have been through FOUR Logitech MX Anywhere mice and they have ALL developed the same problem after 6 months or so. The first two I bought, the second two were sent as warranty replacements. Every single one of them failed. This problem is widely documented online and if you look hard enough you will even find Logitech admitting the issue in rare cases.

It’s not just the MX Anywhere model, it’s all of them. They are otherwise great mice, but please be aware that a few months after purchase you will probably have to replace it. Wall-o-txt doesn’t make your argument any more solid, it’s a common phenomenon, the internet is absolutely littered with people with issues, not people having a great time with their devices. You’re in the minority, you’re one of that small% in the manufacturing run that has a flaw, doesn’t make it any better for you, I’m sorry it’s been a horrid experience, I really am.

And please, enough with the insults, not once have I came at you with insults, hurling insults isn’t how you convince someone of your position. Ignorance is the lack of information or knowledge.

I pointed out that you’re ignorant about the Logitech double click problem, which affects all of their current mouse products. Now you’ve ignored the “wall of text”, once again proving that you are ignorant. If that bothers you, it probably should. Had you read it, you’d know it’s not isolated incidents with me and 3 mouses. I’d open MYOB to count up the customer invoices that we replaced Logitech mouses for, but you’d ignore that too.

It’s nowhere near 1%, I’m guessing closer to 30%, and probably half our customers just threw them away without notifying us of the problem. Lastly, (and you may have the final word) it’s not you that I care to convince. It’s anyone else considering a Logitech Mouse purchase that I’m hoping to educate.

The warning is now there for everyone to see. If they also choose to ignore it, doesn’t bother me in the least. I’m not anti-Logitech. If they still made the G5, I’d buy a dozen more. I’m typing this on a Logitech K800 and absolutely love it. “What insult? Ignorance is the lack of information or knowledge.

I pointed out that you’re ignorant about the Logitech double click problem, which affects all of their current mouse products.” I wasn’t ignorant of it, you assumed I was, at no point was I unaware of it’s existence. You labelled me as ignorant in the absence of that knowing through a massive assumption. Labelling someone as ignorant is insulting, especially when there’s zero basis for it.

“Now you’ve ignored the “wall of text”, once again proving that you are ignorant. If that bothers you, it probably should.

Had you read it, you’d know it’s not isolated incidents with me and 3 mouses.” I’ve not ignored your wall-o-txt, read what I wrote, I simply said I don’t have time to address EVERY point in it. I’m well aware it’s not an ‘islated’ incident, what you’ve outlayed hasn’t demonstrasted that the majorty of customers buying those models are experiencing the issue, it’s as simple as that. Now you’re saying 30%, your earlier posts was def. Suggesting much higher. “Lastly, (and you may have the final word) it’s not you that I care to convince. It’s anyone else considering a Logitech Mouse purchase that I’m hoping to educate.” Well, that assumes you are the arbiter of all knowledge & fact when it comes to this matter & I’m the ignorant or biased fool who cannot be convinced. “If they also choose to ignore it, doesn’t bother me in the least.

I’m not anti-Logitech. If they still made the G5, I’d buy a dozen more. I’m typing this on a Logitech K800 and absolutely love it.:)” It’s not that I care disagree with you for the sake of disagreement, or because I have love only for LT (please), it’s just that you’re not convinving, at all. I have a K811 & a T630, loving them too. I’m done here, nice chatting. I got this mouse because of this review and I have a wired M500 that I really like, and this looked really similar. I don’t like the M705 at all.

It’s a lot smaller and nowhere near as ergonomic, but everyone who makes a wireless mouse apparently thinks they need to make it smaller than a normal wired mouse for some reason so it’s hard to fault Logitech for that. I thought the ability to switch between smooth and clicky scrolling was amazing when I first got my M500.

It’s really a must have feature for me now. The switch/button on the M705 gets stuck, it’s basically crap. This is a common thing too if you Google it. But worse of all is the tracking. I play a lot of poker, and I’ll have 6 or so tables open, and I need to be able to click the bet/fold buttons quickly and accurately. I simply can’t do that with this mouse. It’s something I never even thought about till I used this mouse.

Both the M500 and M705 say “Performance Laser 848 nm” so I assume it’s the same sensor. People think it’s the off center sensor that screws it up, which kinda makes sense if you don’t hold the mouse at an exact 90 degree angle from the screen. In addition to that it feels choppier than the m500. Not by much but it is noticeable. Bottomline is if I was doing normal computer stuff like web browsing, email, office work, ect I would say it sucks but I can live with it.

But because I’m playing poker so much it falls into the “unusable” category. It sucks too cause Logitech is the only one who has that smooth/clicky scrolling. Not a device, but I had it plugged next to the USB3 port. I moved it to the other side of the laptop and it didn’t help any. It was actually much worse. I had wrapped a lint free cloth around a toothpick, sprayed it with Windex and cleaned the sensor. That cut the jittery-ness in half.

I think part of the problem is Pixel Walk (see #4 under this article’s sources), which makes sense that the engineers would be aggressive in the power saving features. If it was just that I could live with it, but not with the other tracking issues. I’ve owned a number of marathon mice over the past 3 or 4 years.

Main upsides: the shape is comfortable — although I have long fingers and will probably grab the Performance MX next time for the slightly larger size — and the batteries truly do last for years (and you can just use one battery if so inclined). Main downsides: the mouse gets greasy pretty easily, matte finish or not, and the design of the main two buttons is, IMO, flawed — enough clicking and the little plastic ‘ribbing’ underneath tends to buckle and crack, changing the click action and causing other dramas. Be glad for the warranty; you’re going to need it. Just bought the M705 for my Mac, and I’m having several issues with it. It doesn’t seem to support inertial scrolling. Even when the wheel is in free-scrolling mode, it still ratchets down the window albeit in a somewhat smoother fashion. It’s way too easy accidentally catch the scroll wheel with a finger on the way over to the keyboard or even just moving the mouse around.

As I’m tracking around the screen, windows are scrolling all over the place as the cursor passes over them. Speaking of the cursor, it’s extremely difficult to get it where I want it to go.

This is extremely frustrating. The Mac OS has some built-in mouse acceleration that I have grown to love, but the Logitech Control Center seems to amplify that at the extremes making the slow tracking too slow and fast tracking too fast. I’m talking about the acceleration on the movement rather than the fast and slow settings. I can’t find a setting that hits the sweet spot. I’m planning to get in touch with Logitech about these issues, but I suspect these are results of the design of the mouse not a configuration problem. I came off a cheap Logitech wireless mouse that was nearly perfect except that the wheel click stopped working after a little less than a year.

Inertial scrolling, smooth wheel but without the free-spinning inertia in the wheel itself, great tracking •. Wanted update on my comment from 25 days ago.

Years and years ago I bought a Microsoft Laser 6000 wireless mouse when they were clearing out stock, left it in storage and forgot about it. I dug it out to compare to the M705. It has similar off-center sensor on the bottom, however the 6000 is more center right and the M705 is more front right. The tracking on the 6000 is way way better. Lets say I wanted to draw a line from the center of a clock face to the 1:30 mark (where the hour hand points at that time). My wired M510 gets there consistently. With the 6000 it might go to the 1:35 mark at first, then 1:30 consistently; not perfect but reasonable, probably only need a little bit of usage time to get use to it.

The M705 will go to about the 2:00 mark; completely unusable for me except for the most basic tasks as long as I don’t need to perform the actions very often (web browsing, typical office work, ect). Going straight sideways and up and down (the center to the 12, 3, 6, and 9 marks) are not a probably with any of the mice. I have a hard time reconciling how many comments say that this mouse is completely unusable with one of the previous updates “None of our testing panel (across all grips) experienced any issues with the sensor placement, so we don’t think this is a dealbreaking flaw for most people”. My theory that there are a bunch of M705 out in the wild that do not have properly calibrated sensors.

I see no other way anyone reviewing this mouse could ignore this. I have been using this mouse for at least three years. I bought this in a combo set at Costco in 2010 or 2011.

I bought one set for each of my two desktop computers. One is rarely used, and the other I use for normal computer use after work. The mouse will only last about 1.5 years of light computer use. One failed about a year ago. Now another is failing. I paid around $50 for the combo at Costco. It was a great deal.

Paying $40 for a mouse that will only last a year is not good. I play to try the g602 since it has a switch that is tested for 20 million clicks. The 705 is only good for 1 million. If I worked from home, this mouse would not last 6 months. I love the mouse, the switches are its downfall. Logitech wireless mice ALL break down after 6 months to a year.

I have used 4 different wireless Logitech mice in the past 4 years and all were dead in or before a year. Go ahead and take the plunge, you will regret it. I understand manufacturing lemons but I have had problems with the G7, G700, G700s and G602. They ALL died and their wireless capabilities conked out or a specific button had problems (usually left mouse button). Then again, I game pretty hard so that does wear the mouse faster than it would for an “average user.” Still, for how grossly overpriced these Logitech mice are, you’d think they’d at least use quality components inside them. I’ve been using Logitech for many years, and I’m still not sure why. Probably cause I had good experience with a mouse+keyboard set when I was a child.

Here’s my story with the latest ones, from older to newer: Marathon M705 – phantom clicks (double clicks instead of single click) – I managed to fix it following a youtube video by opening it up and tightening the thingy in the clicker. Will see how long it lasts. Anywhere MX – phantom clicks as well – I opened it up but I couldn’t fix it. The clicker is way smaller than the one in Marathon. Only choice would be to buy a new clicker and solder it instead. Or throw away the fucking thing. If I smash the mouse hard to the table, it tends to work properly for a few minutes Performance MX – got this 4 months ago, no phantom clicks yet.

However, it makes a high pitched sound when moved and it can get really annoying, especially if it’s quiet in the room I also own a K800 keyboard, which seems to work well. No issues so far, though the battery doesn’t hold for long •. I’m surprised you recommended this mouse. It should be noted that Logitech seems to have dropped further support for the Mac with their Logitech Control Center software – which is required to use any advanced functions or re-program buttons. I’ve tried 4 different Logitech mice since Yosemite was released, and I’ve come to the conclusion that Logitech is not a good brand for Mac users.

The ambidextrous m310 and m525 both do not work at all with the software (it says no Logitech device found), and both the Marathon and Performance MX are buggy under OS X Yosemite, where tracking and button clicks get dropped. There are several threads (some with more than 5 pages of requests) on their forums to update the software and fully support their mice in Yosemite, but it has been met with noncommittal responses from support reps. Instead, I bought a $10 Gear Head mouse which performs comparably to the m310. I bought Logitech M705 based on this review and I am, unfortunately, very disappointed for one point that needs much more attention – the sensor placement, which is that briefly mentioned – “None of our testing panel (across all grips) experienced any issues with the sensor placement, so we don’t think this is a dealbreaking flaw for most people”.

I definitely don’t agree and I do think it is a deal breaker. Due to weird sensor placement, pointer movement is unnatural and notably imprecise – this is immensely frustrating when you start using the mouse and, unlike one might expect, even a week later I still can’t get used to that behavior. The right-end part of the palm it falls under would often move less (and harder) then the fingers / center-left side which often makes the normal movement you would be used to (based on other mice usage) insufficient. Furthermore it might be also in an unexpected direction – while you move the pointer up you would often slightly turn your wrist aside (to the right) – this leads to pointer moving in the direction of your wrist / right-end palm side rather than your fingers and much more favorable center-left side.

I might have a strange grip, but my hands are average size and I would advise buyers to consider the following – 90% of the mice you have probably used have their sensor placed either in the center or slightly left of center (if you look the mouse from top side). When you get a mouse with exactly opposite sensor you are highly likely to get your portion of inconvenience even though you might be holding the mouse differently from me. My Performance MX only lasted 2.5 years before the left-click button failed. I called Logitech and they said send some photos (everything short of my first borns blood) so I did on Saturday. I purchased it from Newegg’s eBay store front on 7/22/2012 and according to Logitech’s warranty page (within my account) warranty is valid until 7/22/2015. However, it seems Logitech keeps deleting data from their websites and the receipt I uploaded in 2012 is no longer present and ebay does not keep purchase records beyond Jan 1st 2013. So no possible way to provide the Proof of purchase as requested, and no possible way to provide the screenshot either.

I no longer see my G35 or my K800 or even my diNovo combo set (or any of the dozens of Logitech items I have purchased over the years), all mysteriously vanished out of my account. Its sad when a company has to resort to deleting proof of ownership just to get people to buy their newer products, especially when some of the products your using is still their newer products. Now, all I am left with is praying to the mice God that they send me a new one. If not I will have to buy another one in less then 3 years?

I have wired mice from 1995 still functioning but their flagship is dead after 2.5 years. Really disappointed. “troubleshooting” is one thing, but this is, or should be, a known issue. This is why i won’t buy another logitech product as the reliability of their hardware is basically a roll of the dice, as is their so-called “troubleshooting”. Spend a few minutes on their forums and in their knowledge base and you’ll see what i’m saying. Having spent years in software qa, i know the difference between a “workaround” and a “fix”.

Rather than invest in fixing the problem, logitech is content with working around the problem, to the frustration of its (soon-to-be-former) customer base. Bought the Logitech m705 based on the wirecutter recommendation and put in for a return ~10 minutes later. As a lot of other have pointed out, the position of the sensor totally gimps the mouse. I was looking for a coffee shop/meeting/travel friendly wireless mouse and am still searching for a ~$30-35 option. My theory is that the offset sensor throws off an vertical (y axis) movement.

I would try to make quick circles, but actually see an elliptical pattern on screen with the way I held the mouse. I use relatively high mouse speed and plant my palm down while I make small motions. I noticed I also hold the mouse at a slight angle (natural since my keyboard is front and center) which I think makes the movement issue worse. If I held the mouse absolutely straight and moved my whole arm around the movement on screen looked better, but this was totally uncomfortable and unnaturally for me. The good in my short test run: – felt pretty comfortable in my medium-ish hands. – Mouse was the perfect size for the “to go” mouse I wanted. – Really liked the scroll wheel w/ hyper scroll toggle.

– back/forward buttons on side The bad: – super weird movement per above – my pinky+ring finger felt slightly cramped on the right side where I gripped the mouse – (minor) you NEED to sync up the mouse using Logitech unifying software. This syncs the mouse to the receiver and only has to be done once ever – even when switching between computers. Not usually a flaw, but in my case it was a minor nuissance since I was expecting plug and play on my corporate comp that I don’t have admin rights on.

As a workaround you can sync the mouse to the receiver on another computer. I would not not recommend the Logitech Performance MX at all, to anyone. My experience with it is based on an 8 month period and I’ve gone through 2 of them within that time. 1 being an in-store return due to faulty mouse buttons that didn’t work, and the second one (the replacement) which is on its way into the trash bin.

I paid $129.99 for it and I feel ripped off to say the least. The low down: – Battery life is less than 6-8 hours making the USB cable mandatory, which defeats the purpose of calling this a wireless mouse.

– Mouse tracking is horrible. The cursor inconsistently jumps across the screen when steadily dragging the mouse, and small precise movements are unresponsive making this a poor mouse for photoshop use or any graphical programs, let alone video games. – The cursor often hangs or lags in one spot on the screen even while moving the mouse. – Left-click mouse button often sticks. The Pro’s: – It looks nice and has good palm support, and that’s about all it does well. These are the worst flaws that I’ve come across with this piece of junk so far, but there are more issues with it than I’ve addressed here. As a consumer I’d recommend you stay far away from this thing given its cost versus quality.

I honestly think the high grades this thing received from “professional reviews” is because the reviewer hasn’t used this mouse for an extended period of time therefore not exposing its many flaws which will surface quickly after regular use. We have never had, nor are we currently having a debate. I post to give users accurate information in order to make an informed purchase decision. I find your posts to be misleading at best, and complete rubbish at worst. When you post misleading information, I’m going to call you on it for everyone to see.

As I’ve stated before, the well known problems with the Logitech double click design are still relevant for every current Logitech mouse and go back to at least the G5/G7. Anyone can verify my claims with a simple Google search for “Logitech mouse double clicking”, where they will find countless users with the same problem for every model of Logitech mouse. They’ll also find several instruction videos and diagrams on how to repair it.

When using that search alone, there is more than enough data to convince average users that the problem is a valid consideration. As I’ve pointed out before, my “-slightly- less limited” experience includes triple digit Logitech Mouse sales and support as a system builder. I’ve built and sold computer systems since ’98. My “personal” experience with Logitech mouses is a few hundred Logitech mouses sold with systems since ’07, and suggests that roughly 1/3 of users will not make it a year without the double click problem. Many won’t make it 3 months. While some people will be happy enough with a cheap Anywhere MX lasting a year, the vast majority of more expensive Logitech mouses will not.

This is a serious design flaw that Logitech needs to address. I have countless customers who’ve been using cheap Microsoft wired and wireless mouses for decades without a problem, and we’ve never gotten one back under warranty for repairs – not one, not ever, never. On the other hand, Logitech mouses had so many returns under warranty that we were forced to stop selling them with our systems. Your first paragraph is such a pile of shit I won’t even dignify it with a response, it drips with pure arrogance. All stuff you’ve dredged-up before, nothing new you’re highlighting, all my old points still stand. At no point have I said it doesn’t exist as a problem, I’ve just never been absolute in my assertions of the level of prevalence. You’re the only one that’s claimed to know how deeply it penetrates.

In our original exchange, you 1st started at very high for mice developing this issue, then towards the end you suggested ‘at least’ 30%, in your latest series of posts you’ve claimed it’s every mouse full-stop, take it or leave it. You’re all over the shop, in reality you don’t really know, you’re just determined to be “the authority” the “untrammelled keeper of absolute truth.” Go own that, you’re winning your argument on the net, surely you’ve got better things to do in your retirement, but hey. I repeated my earlier points so that they remain at the top of the comments for everyone to easily find. It was not intended for your benefit. LOL @ “You’re all over the shop”. My posts are easy for anyone to find. They stated: 1 Every single current Logitech mouse uses the same flawed click technology.

2 About 30% of my own customers reported to us that they had the double click problem while under warranty, and many within a few months. That covered almost 1000 systems sold with various Logitech mouses. I did not break down the numbers for specific models, it covered all Logitech mouses sold since ’07 because they all use the same technology and suffered from the same problem. If you can’t understand that, you have my sympathy. “I repeated my earlier points so that they remain at the top of the comments for everyone to easily find” Redundant, people already sub’d have already heard it, people intent on learning something from trawling the thread (which are the exception but there’ll be some) can easily use sort & search functions built into the forum sw & their browser.

Apparently you just like the sound of your voice 😉 1) + 2) No, in some of your most recent posts you weren’t 100% clear about this point. Your posts seemed to be suggesting that the actual failure rate = “design flaw” i.e.

100%, NOW you have clarified your stance. You have such a narrow view of things. A subscription is not needed to read these reviews and comments, only to post comments. I suspect that the vast majority of people reading this review and comments do not subscribe or contribute to The Wire Cutter, and won’t read more than a few of the latest comments. I could be wrong about that, but so could you. I didn’t change a thing from my earlier posts, just eliminated details which you’ve struggled to comprehend.

Unfortunately, I don’t have the option of presenting pictures, graphs, charts, or recordings to accommodate your learning style. “only to post comments.” You don’t need to be sub’d to post comments. “I suspect that the vast majority of people reading this review and comments do not subscribe or contribute to The Wire Cutter, and won’t read more than a few of the latest comments.” You completely missed my point, I see “I didn’t change a thing from my earlier posts, just eliminated details which you’ve struggled to comprehend. ” Nope, some of the earlier post we’re unclear, until that most recent post of yours, all clear now, for all readers. I’m glad you brought up “truth”. This is specifically why I called BS on your post: First; I consider this to be very much on topic.

We’re posting information which others may take into consideration when spending their hard earned $. The information we provide should be accurate and honest. When I see misleading or inaccurate posts, as an industry professional, I will point them out to everyone. So provide accurate information, and I’ll never respond to you again. Second; 2 months ago you stated that you’ve had a Logitech Anywhere MX mouse for “3yrs & ~9mth of very heavy use” without problems. 6 days ago you stated that you had a replacement Anywhere MX mouse sent under warranty, and you didn’t have to send back your defective mouse.

The Anywhere MX warranty has a “3 year limited hardware warranty”. I know from 17 years of experience with them that Logitech Australia in NSW checks the purchase information against serial numbers before honouring any warranty. So which of your claims is true and which is BS? Did you scam Logitech for a new mouse, or were you misrepresenting how long you’ve had it? I’ve made my points, so you may again have the last word. But if you misrepresent facts later on, I’ll again point it out to everyone. I did have to return the failed mouse with OfficeWorks in Australia, but it was effortless to do that because the courier who delivered the replacement picked up the failed one.

OfficeWorks did ask me if I wanted a full refund or a replacement and I asked for a replacement with the first one that failed. I got the third one from ARC because they were much cheaper than OfficeWorks but haven’t tried to get it replaced yet, I’m basically looking to see if I can find a mouse that doesn’t need to be replaced so often and haven’t found one yet. This is a hell of an indictment of Logitech’s design capability IMO given that all the Cordless MX Duo mice I previously used all failed the same way over what must be a full decade now and Logitech’s gaming mice still have the same problem according to those who have bought them.

Lots of repair videos on youtube too. Have to say that as a system builder who’s used a couple and sold many more Performance MXs, I’m surprised by most of your problems. Other than the clickers needing to be reworked fairly often for double clicking on their own, I’ve not seen any other issues with them. My only other complaint is the positioning of the sensor, as I often move too far to left on my mouse pad (on arm of recliner) and it just stops. Silly that they didn’t center it.

I’m still using 2 Performance MXs, both a couple years old now. Battery life on both is about a week (never turned off and used 12 hrs+/day). Neither has ever skipped across the screen. These devices have a sleep mode built in to save on the battery, so will not respond to small movements if they sit for a while.

Once awake, mine work very well for small movements. When you first move them an inch or so in sleep mode, the battery life indicator will come on indicating it is ready for use again (takes about a minute of sitting idle to enter sleep mode on mine). I’m not suggesting that your problems aren’t real, and they would definitely dishearten anyone. I’m just saying those problems are not the norm. After 2 failures, I’d be insisting upon a refund rather than another replacement. Unfortunately, if you must go through Logitech, that could be more trouble than it’s worth to you. The Anywhere MX is my backup to my backup, and it suffers from the same terrible clicker problems.

After reworking the clicker twice on this one, it’s held up with limited usage for several months now (only used when charging the P-MXs). The Performance MX definitely isn’t for everyone. Can’t say I’d recommend P-MX or A-MX to anyone at this point.

The following wall of text is not recommended for those with limited attention spans! I know better than to recommend a specific mouse or brand for anyone. Everyone has different needs, comfort levels, budgets, and brand loyalty priorities. I suggest that everyone read reviews, including comments of users, when researching their next mouse. The comments are often (not always) a better representation of real life experiences. Always best to try before buying if possible, to see how it fits your hand, style, needs and wants. My entire point with these comments is to provide accurate information so that others can make an informed decision.

Many people will read about the problems with Logitech mouses and still buy one. I’m fine with that. It’s not for me to tell them how to spend their $. I still use my MX Performance because it still works, after repairing it several times. I bought an Anywhere MX a few months ago as a backup, and to see if Logitech had improved the click device (they haven’t). And frankly, when these things are working correctly, I really like them both for various reasons.

When I can no longer repair them, they will be replaced by another brand – unless Logitech has improved their click technology. Technology changes too quickly to research ahead of time. Honest answer; I was a computer system builder for 17 years, a hands on middle manager in plastic injection moulding (highly technical machinery if you’re not familiar with it) for 25 years before that, and I raced and repaired my own enduro motorcycles for 20 years. Other than riding motorcycles, building and fixing things is what I enjoy doing most. Can’t see that ever changing. “I do see some attempts to bolster your position as an ‘authority figure'” The fact is that I am an authority figure when it comes to most IT, education, management, manufacturing, and motorcycle related topics.

(I also possess an Advanced Diploma in Education in AU!) Oops, there I go bolstering my position again! 🙂 My own education and life experiences indicate that you have a serious case of tall poppy syndrome. But no worries mate, I’m aware that it’s a big issue in AU (although rarely directed at me) and you can’t rock my boat.

😉 “thanks for clarifying your rationale for still using them” You’re very welcome. I recently purchased the m705. I needed a cheaper desktop mouse in a hurry, but I was glad to see my choice confirmed later by The Wirecutter. Having received the mouse however, I have to say, the off-center alignment of the tracking sensor is a deal breaker for me. It’s fine when you’re making large sweeping movements across your mouse pad, but the horizontal movement when you twist your wrist is completely thrown off. If you frequently deal with text entry or other fine movements, I’d avoid this mouse.

I tried to hock the m705 off on my partner (who conveniently was looking for a mouse), but they noted the same issue after a few days of use. Depending on how the MX Master gets reviewed, we’ll probably be picking up a Master, Performance, or Anywhere, and just keeping the m705 as a spare. After using it for awhile, I agree. Coming from the MX 1100, the M705 is a little smaller so it doesn’t fill out my hand (you can tell how I prefer to hold my mouse), making me stress my hand a little more to keep it in grip. The angle is also a tiny bit off (also do to the smaller size), causing it to contort within my hand more and more to the left.

The sensor location, however, seems to be no issue at all. If this mouse was simply offered in a larger size to fill out my hand like the MX series, I’d buy it, no questions asked. I don’t know why bigger means more luxurious with a hefty price tag in the mousing world, but I’ll probably keep my eyes on the MX Master for a deal. For anybody who likes light, smaller mice and don’t need a full palm grip, the M705 is still a great choice. 90 hrs is not enough to understand how mice work and to have a good idea of why each of those mouse are made this way.

First: the sensor placement on a laser mouse is a dam science and 99.9% of people know nothing about that. Second: the only sensor that perform well centered is the optical sensor. All throlls complaining about the position of a laser sensor are pure ignorant fool. Laser sensors are positionned at right most of the time but that depend on the shape of the mouse and also batteries slot. The m705 has the first battery slot centered so one battery gives you equal weight for both front and back of the mouse. Find another mouse like that.

Logitech should market their mice as disposable. I am 99% sure that they have full time employees whose only job is to search the web looking for complaints on their products so they can say “gee you must have bad luck, why didn’t you ask to have it replaced?” LOL. People try to be reasonable about the complaints and get trolled out for inconsistency.

Well here is the consistent truth. Logitech molded case mice fail. The plastic warps over use and fails to make appropriate contact with the sensor. Sometimes they last 3 months, sometimes 6 I had one last for 9 months but only because it was hooked up to the ‘tv computer’ and only got clicked a few times a day.

They’ll replace it once – hope you don’t mind waiting a few weeks. Well, whether work or play, most people do.

And after that, where’s your proof of purchase? Oh it was a replacement? Sorry, still need the proof. It is an entire business model based on creating an intentionally defective product that people will have to replace.

There are certainly nice things about them, great feel, the darkfield works incredible. And not the type of tech to become obsolete. So who would ever replace it? Two choices, keep developing new innovative products, or guarantee that they break. Logitech’s just embraced the sleazy, wasteful, exploitive choice. They don’t want to talk about it. Their forums are full of closed threads.

There are posts from engineers explaining exactly what is wrong and how to fix the design. But they don’t want to. It doesn’t have to be that way. They could do a subscription service – 40$ a month and next day replacement every time your mouse fails.

At least then people wouldn’t be constantly pissed – they’d know what they were getting into. Maybe someday another company will make a mouse that’s sweet and dependable. Till then our choices are either clunky and ugly, or preprogrammed death. Based on what i’ve seen in the logitech forums on their site (i’m waiting on my warranty replacement mouse), the left button issue is not unique to any particular model, nor is it new (it goes back to at least 2010, from the posts i’ve seen).

Therefore, this article is irrelevant as far as any recommendations for logitech gear. I’ll never pay for another logitech mouse, nor would i recommend one, even to someone i don’t like. It’s not a matter of if the mouse will fail, it’s just a matter of when.

Sure, all hardware fails at some point, but what seems to be happening in this case is a defect, not because the mouse gets old. There are people who are experiencing the same issue within the first month of purchase. Additionally, mice are generally pretty reliable. I have an hp mouse that’s been working like a charm for 6 years (it’s the one i used until my warranty replacement logitech showed up). Going by what i’ve read in the user forums on the logitech site, and from my experience as a an IT tester, this is an issue that logitech should be looking into. Whether it’s changing the specs on the part that’s failing or getting a different vendor to make the part, it’s an issue that logitech needs to fix. And my micrsoft mouse is 10 years old •.

I appreciate your experience but that doesn’t change my stance. Most specifically because the “solutions” that are given on the logitech forums don’t solve what is obviously a hardware defect that could probably be traced to batches of parts (if they put forth the effort). To answer your question, logitech has gotten “where they are now” by providing a niche service, in this case, computer peripherals, which are generally moderately priced. I could easily buy a $10 mouse at walmart, but if i’m looking for a more upscale product, i expect upscale performance, reliability and service. I must agree with Bathazar Xavier.

Avoid Logitech. Double clicks are guaranteed with 90% of their models. It’s not a bad luck thing, it is a quality issue. I had Anywhere Mouse, I loved it for first six months, then doubleclicking started. I’ve tried everythig, static discharge, different batteries, blowing moist over buttons, nothing helps.

And the mouse wasn’t cheap. So double fail for me. Also tried the so recomended Logitech M705.

Had it for one day before I sold it. Off-center laser is just stupid. How people work with that is beyond me. Now using much cheaper HP Wireless Mouse x5500. It’s a bit weird shape but I like it. Finally a ‘normal’ mouse. Will look into Microsoft Wireless Mouse 900 when it arrives.

As a photoshop user, I switched between many different types of mouses. The Microsoft ones. Then I moved to the Logitech Marathon, then the MX, then the performance. After that I read into the gaming mouse realm where we can set the different macro keys. I then bought the logitech G602 gaming mouse of curiosity.

However, this has become my favorite mouse. The matte finish and the 6 macro keys is just enough for all the quick commands. Not to heavy. The battery last forever as well. Also, I used only 4 of the macro keys for the photoshop leaving the forward and backward to the default setting.

When I first bought the G602, I thought that the 6 macro keys was gonna be too much for me but instead I used all of them and touch the keyboard less often now. Hope this helps other buyer looking for a good mouse. I am a palm person with a 6 1/2 inch hands from the tip of the middle finger to the middle of the wrist. Hope this helps!! I have been using the M325 until I have lost it recently while traveling. Based on the site recommendations I have purchased the Microsoft sculpt mobile because I needed a small mouse to go and was aware that it had a right and left tilt button on the wheel similar to the M325.

However I am really disappointed that the left and right tilt button is completely useless. I was expecting it to be a forward and back button for browsers. Not only was the tilt button not assigned automatically as forward and back in browsers, I am unable to program it on the Microsoft mouse software itself. I find the back and forward button to be essential while browsing, it is much more important than horizontal scrolling. This my first non Logitech mouse I have bought and I will definitely be purchasing Logitech again in the future. In all my Logitech mice I have ever owned the back and forward buttons were assigned automatically. Either it was on the wheel tilt or there were side buttons to be pressed using your right thumb.

In either case forward and back buttons were available. To your credit I do agree that the Microsoft mouse is nice in the hand and has a smooth right and left click, however the useless tilt button is a major deal breaker.

Please let me know if I have missed something and if there is a way to assign the right and left tilt on the wheel. If not you should clearly mention it in your review that there is no forward/back buttons to be used on browsers.

I am not the only one with this problem, a simple search shows that many people have the same issue. I’ve had 3 of these since November 2011. I can say that the only issue with the mouse is that the mechanism which allows the scrollbar to switch between fast and stepped scrolling breaks often comes loose, though it is often fixable by turning the mouse upside down and re-clicking it. (This often happens when transporting the mouse, so avoid that.) My first mouse also lost sensitivity in the back of the left-click, so it was only working at the fingertip, and Logitech replaced it easily. (The third was a spare for another workspace.) Battery performance lives up to the promise.

Has anyone else had bad experiences with the durability of Logitech mice? I was using an Anywhere MX for about a year when the left button began to malfunction (sometimes not clicking, sometimes registering as a double click, impossible to use for a click+drag). When it started acting up I wasn’t able to access the Logitech Service website.

Out of frustration I just wrote it off and bought a new M705. 6 months later and now that mouse is having the same problems with the left button. Thankfully this time I was able to get replacement units through Logitech Support, but it’s kinda soured me on the usually bulletproof Logitech products. My Performance MX mouse had the same issue. Since it was out of warranty I opened it up and liberally sprayed electronic contact cleaner (DeoxIT D5) in both the left and right button switches. I let it sit for a little bit and then used some compressed air to gently blow out the switches to make sure it was all dry.

Put it back together and it’s been flawless for almost 2 yrs now. Oh, BTW.I’ve got small hands and I don’t understand the knock on the Performance MX. I use the fingertip grip and it feels great to me! BEWARE the MX MASTER!!

They have noted it above, but it bears special repetition – the MX Master does NOT have application specific settings similar to the Performance MX. It uses the dumbed down Options software instead of setpoint and is a HUGE step backwards in functionality. I literally have the Performance MX and MX Master side by side, moving from one mouse to the other in my applications and it is astounding all the things that the new “flagship” mouse cannot do that the Performance MX does with aplomb. Even something as basic as the application switcher – Perf MX has a nice display of all your open windows, move over to MX Master and press same button and it’s literally just the gimped down alt-tab switcher.

I’m just moving my hand from one mouse to the next in the exact same desktop environment. For $100 it’s beyond belief that they have neutered the functionality so fantastically. And almost as distressing is the response from Logitech – for more than FOUR MONTHS the standard support reply in the forums is that they will “forward your suggestion to the software development team” and appear to have gone silent on it by now. The Logitech support forums have a thread going on it: •. I have to recommend that the problem with the scroll wheel be moved from the “flaws” to the “dealbreakers” category.

The reason I bought a mouse instead of using the trackpad that came with my wireless keyboard was for convenient scrolling. This mouse has a faulty scroll wheel as several people have pointed out. Why would you make your number one recommendation something with such a crippling design flaw? I already replaced the mouse once, but the second one has the same problem. Sure, they’d send me a third if I asked, but I would rather just get one that works.

I’d have to agree with Jacob. Based on your recommendation, I purchased the M705, and I noticed immediately how the scroll wheel would drift or reverb back a few lines, so I returned it immediately. It’s unacceptable for a product that’s been on the market for this amount of time to still have manufacturing flaws.

I’m coming from a Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 that I’ve had for years and still is in great shape, but unfortunately it just doesn’t work with my new laptop’s USB ports (I think it’s the laptop’s fault). I wish there was a new Microsoft mouse with bluetooth. I was using an AnywhereMouse MX for 4 years and one year ago began the left double click problems. At first I decided to buy another Logitech (thinking about M705 or M510) but now I’m afraid after reading a ton of comments about Logitech’s mices. Seems that almost all of them have two issues: First one is double click instead of a single click and the second one is some kind of error with scroll and movement.

Since I’m using it mostly on laptop I need a wireless one and I rather prefer one with 5 or 7 buttons, but to be honest, after reading of these comments I don’t know what to do. Seems a bad idea buying another Logitech right now if they are still making them without fixing the problems. Do you know any other brand with these features?

That was an extensive report. Most likely a minority here but I am completely flabbergasted that people will settle for dongles and port stealers (UniFi adapters) in order to operate a mouse and keyboard. In my estimation Bluetooth should be the standard and the rule. I use about 5 Windows Machines and 4 Mac’s in my line of work.

I detest MAC Micehorrible! So, I try to use a smaller logitech for all my work. The best mouse I ever had (bought up a bunch on ebay when they were discontinued) was the Logitech V470 Bluetooth Win/MAC mouse.

Perfect shape, pretty white and grey finish and a work horse. Why discontinue such a gorgeous tool? Anyway, I have never found a mouse to replace itluckily I still have two left. Thanks for the detailed review! Based on your suggestion, I tried a “refurb” M705 from eBay and was very disappointed. The scroll wheel was not balanced and the scroll wheel lock button was vary flaky/mushy. So I returned it and bought a new M705 when I was browsing at Costco last night.

Only spent an hour with it so far, but I’m really liking it. Costco has the Logitech MK620 Wireless Keyboard & Mouse combo (which has the same keybaord as the “Logitech Wireless Combo MK520” but includes the M705 mouse instead). It is currently $10 off at $39.99. That’s actually what I bought since I needed a wireless keyboard too.

“$10 manufacturer’s discount is valid 10/4/15 through 10/25/15. While supplies last.” If you only need the M705 mouse alone, it’s currently $10 off at $19.49 (warehouse only — your warehouse may vary)! I might go back and by a few more of them for my other PCs and for the office. Update: Bought three more M705 mice last night to go along with my other one that came with the MK620 keyboard/mouse combo. Unfortunately, all FOUR mice exhibit a huge, known manufacturing flaw — the free-flowing scroll wheel is imbalanced.

When you take your finger off the wheel, the heavy part will slowly rotate towards the ground due to the earth’s gravity and your text/webpage will scroll in the opposite direction. It’s more annoying than it sounds. Because of this, you cannot use the free-flowing mode. You have to press the “O/O” button below the scroll wheel and use a rachet-type mode.

Apparently this issue has been going back to 2011: If Logitech would just fix this, then I’d give the M705 an “A” since everything else is wonderful. It glides smoothly on surfaces and is very comfortable. The button placement and feedback is great. It just that I cannot utilize the free-flowing scroll wheel function which I would love, if it worked properly. Still not sure if I am going to keep all four M705 mice. I bought the M705 Marathon after reading (ok, skimming) this recommendation.

The mouse felt comfortable and seemed great. However, after a while (a few days to a week) I began to notice I was having difficulty performing simple tasks like clicking on the start menu and especially small items on the screen. Having just recently seen that documentary about Stephen Hawking where he suddenly became clumsy due to ALS, I half freaked out thinking something might be wrong with me.

As a test, I fired up Counterstrike and, sure enough, I couldn’t aim worth crap. And felt so clumsy.

I was horrified. Anyway, long story short: I finally realized that there was nothing actually wrong with me and that it was the mouse giving me the issues. I had never used a mouse with an off-center sensor before, and I’ve never ever had a problem with a mouse (even the old laggy wireless ones), so I wasn’t able to put 2 and 2 together right away. I’ve since given the mouse to a family member who seems happy with it.

Not sure why the off-center sensor affects me so much, but it does. Just thought I’d share. Why no trackballs?

The OG Trackball/Trackman by Logitech are legendary and my personal faves (as I dislike the thumb ones). People seem to have switched to the Kensington style over the past decade or so, with a lot of those new customers being former Logitech users disappointed with the current lack of options and either ran out of their stockpile of mice which they acquired (hoarded) over the years, or are unwilling to spend upwards of half a grand or so that those devices are fetching on eBay/Amazon due to their cult-like following. Would be nice if those were included in the breakdown. And who knows, if there’s enough interest maybe it could have its own article, altho would be quite surprised if that were to happen.

Will you be updating this guide before the end of the year? It is really out of date.

Up 3 has been out for six months now, Up 2 even longer. Lots of interesting new device announcements recently, not to mention all the firmware updates manufacturers issue. For example, the Up 3 and Vivosmsart are much improved from when they launched. This is one of the product categories where an aggregating site like the Wirecutter could be incredibly useful, but that would require you guys being a lot more vigilant than you have to date. (EDIT: I should note i’ve been using the m705 not the mx master) Yeah, it’s because Logitech doesn’t usually bode well with Macs. I bought a Logitech recently and they have a system preference download that has it’s own set of speeds, gestures, etc.

Which if you use Bettertouchtool like I do, just made it way too confusing trying to get it all right. I just ditched the logitech prefs/driver download and let the mac figure out the speeds and BTT the gestures.

It can also be a little jumpy sometimes if you set the tracking speed either too slow or too fast. I’m only getting about 8 days of heavy use per battery charge on the MX Master that I have only had for 16 days.

Part of it may be my forgetting to turn it off on occasion (I try but it is much less natural than the motion for turning off the MX anywhere). I’m not feeling good about this.

The other thing the MX Master makes me realize is that I frequently switch my hands when computing on the couch. I didn’t realize with the MX Anywhere because it was almost symmetrical and easy to use ambidextrously. I’ve had the MX Master for several months now and I can’t stand it. As others have reported, the scroll wheel is either too loose or imbalanced so that after scrolling, an application will rebound in the other direction. Scrolling through Chrome or Excel is an exercise in inaccuracy when using the wheel. Logitech Support’s current solution is to switch the wheel to ratchet mode, which is not an acceptable solution for a $90 mouse.

I also previously purchased the M705, which also had this same problem. No more Logitech mice for me. I’m going to purchase a cheaper microsoft mouse, which I’ve had much better experience with in the past.

Wirecutter – you should not be recommending this premium mouse. Here is my most recent reply to Logitech, after they replaced my self-scrolling mouse: The current problem was solved by the replacement mouse. My concern is that there is a quality control problem with this wonderful product. My free-wheeling mouse at work (out of warranty) has a small problem with balance, and only irritates me a couple of times per day by doing a vertical scroll to something I didn’t want. The one I exchanged (at home) gave me problems every minute of mouse action. I like the inertia wheel scrolling so much that I’ve upgraded the 3 systems that I regularly use. I’ve had to return 3 mice in this upgrade process, over the last few years.

I’m reluctant to recommend this wonderful product to friends, because of the quality of the wheel balance in my sample of 6 units (with 3 bad). If I knew that quality controls had been added, I’d be happy to share the good news with my friends and associates. If quality of the scroll wheel balance cannot be guaranteed, the product family will probably die off. Have you tried this type of mouse? If not, give it a try. If you get a good one, you’ll probably love the high-speed scroll control.

Thanks, Carl •. Had the exact same issue — makes it unusable both for web browsing and work (graphics).

And that’s not the only woe! Precision for pointing is terrible, and hitting targets involves either overshooting, or not reaching the target and then the slightest nudge sends the cursor shooting. Yes, I installed Logitech’s software (no docs for OS X versions), played with Acceleration; when I turned it off, the cursor would not move — so that wasn’t the solution. Bad tech support from Logitech! Wirecutter, this was a disaster.

WARNING – The Logitech Marathon Mouse M705 is a “COMPACT” mouse (per Logitech): women’s small – good; men’s medium – fingertip only. I wear a men’s medium glove (broad palm with stubby fingers) and switch between a claw grip and modified claw (two points just forward of base of palm) and use the scroll wheel a lot.

This mouse is definitely too small (short major axis) for my hand. I might as well be using a large travel mouse. My spouse, who wears a women’s small, likes the mouse size.

Neither of us is fond of the scroll wheel (we both use click/ratchet mode). My old slightly longer Logitech MX518 and some other old-old full size mice (without the taller hump and more pronounced right hand, right thumb shape typical of many more recent mice) are all much easier to hold.

This mouse might be OK for one or two matches of a first person shooter where I primarily click, arch my fingers and hand a lot, and rarely use the wheel. Our panel didn’t like Apple’s Magic Mouse much. As a Wirecutter staffer noted, it’s too flat and uncomfortable for extended use, and while it supports OS X gestures using a touch-sensitive surface on the top, the Magic Trackpad is much better for gestures. There’s also no way to take advantage of the Magic Mouse’s best feature—its integrated touch surface—on Windows. (Without additional software, it will pair with a Windows machine and work like a basic mouse, giving you cursor control, left click, and right click.) By installing the bootcamped drivers available here you can add a battery life indicator as well as natural and one-finger scrolling, but no other functions are available to Windows users. I personally liked using it with an iMac. This is one time Wirecutter has failed me.

I bought two of the Marathon mouse during an Amazon sale. I was coming from the Logitech Nano VX, and found the tracking on the Marathon was terrible. Left and right tracking wasn’t too bad, but up and down would be erratic. Performing a google search for “logitech marathon tracking issues” takes you to a forum that describes the issues I was having. It wasn’t an isolated case since both mouse had the same issues. Ultimately it was a design flaw. Ended up returning them.

Still looking for an adequate replacement for the VX. Fourth time in a row that Wirecutter has failed for me: Pioneer VSX-1021k AV receiver – AirPlay cut in and out constantly, ethernet connection very flaky, remote sucked. TP-Link Archer C7 router – needs constant reboots, wireless performance is abysmal on 5 GHz band (about 20-feet away from router), terrible software. Zero Edge Z-Edge Z3 dash cam – comes with zero documentation, impossible to tell if it’s recording or not, hardware buttons are very very cheap, UI uses sounds from Windows 98 (100% serious). Logitech MX Master – ratcheting mouse wheel broke on 2nd day of use (very common issue it seems, according to reddit and Logitech user forums), loses connectivity every time I put my MacBook Pro to sleep (I keep it in clamshell with a couple external monitors); I have to wake it back up using the keyboard and still no mouse connectivity, so then I do the song-and-dance of using keyboard shortcuts to navigate to System Preferences ->Bluetooth and reconnect the MX Master.

There’s now a growing list of Bluetooth devices comprised my Apple Wireless Keyboard along with 6 copies of the MX Master – one for each time I’ve had to wake up my laptop and reconnect the damn mouse. I downloaded the Logitech Options app hoping that maybe Logitech included some missing drivers or something, but no change. Also, once connected, it seems as if the mouse puts itself to sleep if it’s not used for 30 seconds or so – I have to move it around for a second or two in order to wake it back up. Also, I tried using the RF dongle, but that just doesn’t even work?? Perhaps I need to read up on how to connect it properly, but it either doesn’t work or is very non-intuitive. What a terrible, terrible experience this is!

My third Logitech mouse – first I had the MX Revolution, then the MX Performance, and now this piece of garbage. I cannot understand how the Wirecutter reviewers did not run into any of these problems. I’ll probably start looking elsewhere for solid product reviews. What happened?? This place used to be a rock solid source where I could just skim an article and assume they knew what they were talking about and know I was gonna get a great product. Simply cannot do that any more.

Just got the Logitech Marathon Mouse M705 on this recommendation and had to return it within 10 minutes of using it. Everything is fine about it, but the middle mouse click is the worst I’ve ever used in any mouse. It’s nearly impossible to actually get it to activate reliably, and with just the slightest incorrect application of pressure it instead makes a click sound like it’s activating the horizontal left/right scrolls. Who even uses the scroll wheel to click one-at-a-time to scroll horizontally anyway? Just sacrifice that feature so we can have 100% reliable middle clicks. Given how half the time I’m not even sure I can reliably activate the middle click instead of scrolling, it’s totally useless for applications that require middle clicking. Its true that the middle mouse click is a bit tricky at first, but there is an easy fix, assign “middle button” to all three scroll button functions in setpoint.

I set left and center click of the scroll wheel to “middle button” and right click of the scroll wheel to delete. Also assigned esc, shift, and ctrl+z. I love this mouse, but it seems harder and harder to find.

I am going to start stockpiling. I think they are discontinued, with nothing close to replace them. I have used them for years and i think i only replaced batteries in one, once. Thanks for the detailed review, even if it’s months old. We seem to be in a mouse recession. Logitech pulled out of the OEM business, and nothing overly innovative has come out recently. I spent 2 hours at Fry’s today scanning bar codes and reading Amazon reviews of Logitech and Microsoft mice.

I did this after my M510 mouse became constantly laggy and I had exhausted all software explanations. Despite its high reviews and good ergonomics, the M510 has lagging issues, and has an off-center sensor. Don’t miss this report: The M705 certainly has its share of detractors, whose concerns deserve attention. I would hope you would consider the following models with your reviewers, even if they are not currently manufactured: Logitech VX Revolution (seems to fit your criteria almost exactly) Logitech MX Revolution (an expensive collector’s item today) Logitech VX Nano (another collector’s item, made for mobile — best in class when it first came out) Logitech G602 (which another poster mentioned recently) — even if you don’t use it for games, its ruggedness, buttons, etc. Might make it worth it, considering it’s only $55.

The thing which turns me off is the longer right front. From what commenters here and on Amazon have said, neither the M705 nor the MX Master seem ideal for long-term users. I think you dismiss the M525 too easily. Ratcheting scroll wheel is not an absolute requirement for me. In fact, the noise and tactile feedback drives me crazy — I’d rather have a micro-ratcheting or software mechanism which prevents inadvertent backward turns, but doesn’t make any audible noise.

Also, being heavier in weight is not necessarily a liability — too light a mouse makes it unmaneuverable — how many times have you felt like slamming down an unresponsive mouse which is ultra-light? I don’t want a paper weight mouse, but neither do I want a featherweight mouse.

For compact mice like the M525, the added weight makes up for the small size. For a no-frills Bluetooth mouse, the MS 3500 seems best, I agree. To replace my laggy and unresponsive M510, I’ve ordered an M525, but I will consider getting a VX Revolution, or, in the most expensive case, an MX Revolution. None of the good reviews of Logitech mice I have read point out the one deal breaking flaw in the design – that of doubling the scroll wheel as the middle mouse button. This is a horrible design choice which means that when you click the scroll wheel to, say, open a link in a new tab (one of the most common uses of the middle button), you cannot help moving the wheel a little as well and so the screen moves. This is horrible if you’re going to open a link in a new tab and the scroll wheel moves the screen just before the click registers.

You either miss the link or open the wrong link. The MX Anywhere got this right. It has a dedicated middle button below the scroll wheel. On all other Logitech mice, the button below the scroll wheel acts as a mode switcher to change the wheel from ratcheted to free spinning – a complete waste of a good button. On the MX Anywhere, you click the scroll wheel itself to change spinning modes.

This is completely logical because you don’t care about accidentally moving the wheel when switching modes. You DO care about accidentally moving the wheel when clicking links. Logitech’s designers are obviously too brainless to figure this out. How do you even do that accidentally? I can power up/down the M705 with one hand or two hands, and won’t accidentally scroll or click You just rest the mouse in the nook between your index finger and your thumb, turn it around, toggle the power switch with your other hand, and place the mouse on the mousing surface. More advanced users (like me, who has been using this one for 5-6 years), would grab and lift the mouse using the thumb and the ring+little finger, resting its bulb against the pads of the palm.

Again, no danger of scrolling and/or clicking. I’m so glad I bought the Logitech Marathon M705 mouse in uh 2010? I’ve gone through 8 — count ’em, EIGHT! — computers (laptops and desktops) since I bought the mouse and I AM STILL USING THE SAME MOUSE UP TO NOW.

It has been a very loyal companion for me. I use it at the office, and I bring it home every day to use on my PC. I am just so lost without it; it is VERY comfortable for me, and after I remapped the middle click from the wheel to the lower thumb button (the ‘hidden’ button — because I’ve worn out the rubber grip enough to remove the white mark), I totally have no problems. And I’ve changed the batteries only twice; and one of the change was not due to the battery running out, but because the batteries leaked –__– (I know, I shouldn’t have bought those Extra!Cheap! Alkaline batteries. Lesson learned.) •.

Disappointed how little consideration the Microsoft Arc Touch Mouse was given. It’s an unconventional design and it takes time to acclimate to, I’m skeptical that any of the testers gave themselves time to adjust to the shape before dismissing it. The article indicates that only 14% of users polled travel with their mouse, I wonder how that question was phrased. Many people don’t travel often and then they may not pack a mouse when they do, but as a daily commuter with a laptop I transport my mouse daily and I think a lot more than 14% of office workers do as well. I wouldn’t classify this as “travel”.

Because of this daily commute and the slim profile of my messenger bag I find that the flat profile of the Arc Touch is a truly innovative and differentiating feature. While it’s not as ergonomic as a traditional mouse, it’s perfectly acceptable and it’s portability is more important. It’s also one of the rare “portable” mice that’s a good fit for larger hands, when “arched” it’s equivalent to a full size mouse and fits in the palm. I think the topic of mice requires a more usage specific slant in a review, the recommended option here is a “middle of the road” mouse that doesn’t really excel at anything. It’s not a goldilocks option. The Microsoft Arc Touch mouse is my suggestion for anyone seeking a full-size commuter/travel mouse. Uhh it’s actually talked in the article: “The $80 Logitech MX Anywhere 2 isn’t ambidextrous—it has thumb buttons on the left side that a leftie wouldn’t be able to use comfortably—but it is a small, compact mouse with Bluetooth, two side buttons, and a rechargeable battery.

Our panel thought this second iteration of the Anywhere was too flat to use comfortably for long periods, and we found its scroll wheel to be uncooperative and unreliable when switching between ratcheted and infinite scrolling modes. We definitely don’t think it’s worth $65 more than the Microsoft Sculpt Mobile.” •. I bought the M705 almost one year ago based on the review of this website, and from the first day, I hate it. It doesn’t feel ergonomic at all, because it doesn’t rest in my hand correctly. I have a very hard time to find a proper grip for it.

Based on the images provided by Razor, I would say that this mouse is really for someone that grips the mouse with the fingertips (at least is how it seems to fit my hand), but I can’t use it like that because it makes my wrist hurt. Maybe it works for most people, but not for me. My last great mouse was the IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 •. ‘lack of ratcheting scroll was dealbreaker” (on the M525). This is nonsense.

First, ‘ratcheting’ is the wrong term, that means something you can set to roll one way and it holds and will not roll the other way. What they are complaining about, wrongly, is the smooth scrolling. I came from the v450 (indented scroll) to m525 (smoother). At first I thought the smooth (Logitech calls it higher resolution or something) was a problem. I thought it was like some older less functional implementation of smooth scroll.

But this time, they got it right. Then I found it was a great feature. I very quickly became used to it’s ‘loose’ feelingit’s actually not imprecise. It’s not too loose, it doesn’t spin forever etc. It has a very big advantage: You can spin the wheel to scroll faster through long pages, and it causes less fatigue. And you also learn how to do that at different rates, intuitively.

It all becomes transparent to you quickly. There is no drawback for finer moves ones you finger muscle memory get’s used to it. Courser/sticker indents seem crude now.

No going back. I’ve used the Logitech Anywhere MX for year. (this is like my 4th one), but it has this horrible “double click” problem, when you try to single. (It’s all over the internet), and I keep getting it replaced it by warranties, but I’m getting tired of doing that.

You mentioned the smooth scrolling (or precision scrolling, or whatever they wanna call it 🙂 ) I’m wondering if you’ve had experience with any other mice that have that, and are comfortable to use? This is one of my most love features in the Anywhere MX, and IMHO, it does it really well, but, it only lasts about 8 months before the double click problem starts happening thoughts? I bought the Microsoft Sculpt Mobile Mouse based on the previous Wirecutter recommendation for use with our laptop. It is fine in every way except I prefer a larger mouse for my men’s-glove-size-M hands. So I bought a Microsoft Wireless Mouse 900 (not tested here) assuming it would be just a full-size version with Sculpt-like features. I find the Microsoft Wireless Mouse 900 simply awful to use.

The scroll wheel rotates very smoothly with light finger pressure – but the pointer doesn’t move! Only by pressing harder does it begin to activate a ‘ratchet’ scroll which works. This is incredibly annoying. I’ve tried adjusting the mouse settings in this Win10 PC to no avail.

So I’m back in the market for a full-size mouse. I’m another dissatisfied customer of the M705. I bought one for use at work based on this article and have not been happy with it.

The main issue for me has been that scroll on macOS — both before Sierra and after — has been very erratic and choppy. I can never be sure how far I’m going to scroll, and I often have to bounce back and forth to land where I want. Nothing I’ve tried has managed to solve this; iirc even USB Overdrive is not an option since it’s an RF mouse (I tried and it changed nothing). It also seems that Logitech is not promising any updates to its control software for macOS. The M705 is also very heavy, and that added to the hand position I need to use in order to make use of the scroll wheel has proven mildly painful. IMO, the Apple Magic Mouse is much more comfortable to use and works better with macOS (natch).

I’m still not nuts about the AMM, but it’s a much better choice for Mac users than the M705, IMO. FWIW, I will likely spend the money on a Magic Trackpad, as it integrates best with macOS and is the easiest on my hand.

The M705 is a left-handed mouse pretending to be a right-handed mouse. I can’t imagine anyone finding it usable. My middle finger is my longest finger, but that part of the mouse is the shortest. My finger actually contacts the desk. I want a mouse that is shaped like a mouse; not some funky shape that feels totally wrong in my hand. Just a plain old mouse, 4.5 inches long.

Logitech has cornered the mouse market, and all they make are exciting disco shapes. At one store I actually found a Logitech mouse of the size and shape I wanted. But that mouse is not wireless.

The only way to get a Logitech mouse that actually feels right in my hand is to use last century’s technology. I have been trying to find a new mouse that I can use for MONTHS. This is not the place to find what I need. All respect to gamers and those doing serious graphics, but ordinary office work and browsing doesn’t need better than the nice Tecknet mice for less than $10 on Amazon. Build compares with the lower end Logitech mice I own and beats low end Microsoft. (Back in 1988 as a student with an Apple Mac I trained my left hand to use the mouse so I could locate a book and hold a pen – remember those?

– in the space right of the keyboard. Never lost the habit – any symmetrical mouse with some key programming is fine.) •. For almost nobody a good mouse is really vital, but when you’re using one for >8 hours a day the small annoyances really add up. Every time you click the wrong icon, or have to click several times, or the connection gets lost, you get a little pissed.

Most mice last quite a while and over the years it all adds up. It is definitely worth spending a few bucks more for something that is actually pleasant to work with. Reliable stuff, programmable buttons, a nice grip. Good tools are worth it. Also, that Tecknet mouse is a piece of garbage.

Just buy one comfortable, reliable 40-dollar mouse now that lasts for 5 years, instead of five 10-dollar shitty irritating ones, one a year. I just got the MX Master. It works great with the included unifying dongle. Can’t connect over BT though but I read (as noted here) it’s a frequency issueno matter, the dongle works great.

The software from Logitech sees my mouse and the BT keyboard and gives me access to settings on both. The side scroll wheel is great!

I can go to previous page or forward to the page I was on by just turning the wheel with my thumb in Chrome, and on other windows, it just scrolls side to side. I’m on MacOS Sierra. I have an M705 for sale if anyone wants it. Absolutely the worst mouse I have ever used.

Given the raves about it here, I either bought a “Friday” mouse, or this review is sponsored by Logitech. It’s that bad it’s put me off buying any more Logitech mice. The buttons are unresponsive, or will “let go” for no reason. Fortunately the keyboard that came with it is a gem, otherwise I wouldn’t touch another Logitech product.

An email to Logitech about the mouse didn’t even get the basic courtesy of a reply. I need to do more research to find a non-Logitech mouse that will do the job. Surprised to see the negatives for the M705. It is my absolute fave mouse of all time.

No problems with ergonomics, and the center(wheel/button) click is the one function I never use. (Do any PC users rely on a middle-click?) I draft and edit documents for a living. This is the #1 text editing mouse ever. Chelsea Fc Font Download. The thin side buttons are mapped to Copy/Paste, main left-side thumb button is Cut, left scrollwheel is Backspace, right scrollwheel is Delete. Simple, intuitive text manipulation for all situations without having to go back to your keyboard! Battery life is silly long, and you can remove one battery to make it lighter and shift center of mass. It’ll still last a year on 1 battery!

Cyber Monday $17 at Target ($20 sale minus automatic 15% at register). Price match at Amazon to $17 (YMMV). Local big box will match $20. Amazon was $20 a couple of days ago. WARNING: Small hands only OR try carefully before you buy!

Kimber Streams, you should note in your review that Logitech says this is a COMPACT mouse and emphasize that this is on the small size for a desktop mouse. You note that many site comments, including here, are favorable (last comment here: “absolutely fave”), but you FAILED to note that many disagree strongly, emphatically, with this recommendation due to hand discomfort as well as tracking, button, and especially wheel problems (next to last comment here: “absolutely the worst mouse”). I wear Men’s Medium glove and after a couple of days I “gifted” it to my petite spouse, who moderately likes it. For ~$40+, I also expected a much better scroll wheel.

Put me in the moderately but very definitely disappointed group. I would have been quite willing to take a $5 loss, but I couldn’t return it.

So if this compact mouse fits your hand (or you are willing to return a.